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Valvoline Premium Blue Restore 10W-30 in a Honda 2.4L
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Originally Posted by SatinSilver
Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
I don't understand these K42 oil using issues. The three K24 powered Hondas in my family use zero oil. Is it from some owners doing those 10K oil changes,gumming up the rings? I've never owned an oil user.
You change the oil every 3k miles on full synthetic so they don't have any time to consume oil.
Not true on my hondas. I use Mobil 1 it consumes more oil vs Castrol Titanium or Pennzoil Platinum. The problem are the piston rings. No oil is gonna help.
Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
I don't understand these K42 oil using issues. The three K24 powered Hondas in my family use zero oil. Is it from some owners doing those 10K oil changes,gumming up the rings? I've never owned an oil user.
You change the oil every 3k miles on full synthetic so they don't have any time to consume oil.
Not true on my hondas. I use Mobil 1 it consumes more oil vs Castrol Titanium or Pennzoil Platinum. The problem are the piston rings. No oil is gonna help.
I had what I assume was ring issues with my 09 altima, 1/2-3/4 of a quart ever 700-1000k miles. I used kreen, half a quart in the oil and half in the fuel and at 750 miles on a new oil change it took a few ounces so I'm sold. Tbh I wasn't expecting much and I was shocked to say the least. I tried LM motor oil saver, engine flushes and heavier oil and nothing phased it. I still have another quart and may try the purge method on the can when I get time, or might do another 1k run at the end of the oci.
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Originally Posted by SatinSilver
Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
I don't understand these K42 oil using issues. The three K24 powered Hondas in my family use zero oil. Is it from some owners doing those 10K oil changes,gumming up the rings? I've never owned an oil user.
You change the oil every 3k miles on full synthetic so they don't have any time to consume oil.
Haha I keep that baby squeaky clean!
Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
I don't understand these K42 oil using issues. The three K24 powered Hondas in my family use zero oil. Is it from some owners doing those 10K oil changes,gumming up the rings? I've never owned an oil user.
You change the oil every 3k miles on full synthetic so they don't have any time to consume oil.
Haha I keep that baby squeaky clean!
I never check the oil on wifey's 2006 TSX with just shy of 200K.
Just service it every 6K miles, or thereabouts with M1 HM 5w30.
I also service a 2007 TSX with 87K miles; it consumes about 1 quart around 3,500 miles.
It was serviced at quickie lubes until I got it earlier this year.
I am not sure but their syn blend was generally used.
As many of us are, I am curious to see Michael's results.
I can tell you, these 1st gen Acura TSXs are great cars.
Sue can drive any of our cars. She loves her trusty TSX.
Just service it every 6K miles, or thereabouts with M1 HM 5w30.
I also service a 2007 TSX with 87K miles; it consumes about 1 quart around 3,500 miles.
It was serviced at quickie lubes until I got it earlier this year.
I am not sure but their syn blend was generally used.
As many of us are, I am curious to see Michael's results.
I can tell you, these 1st gen Acura TSXs are great cars.
Sue can drive any of our cars. She loves her trusty TSX.
Originally Posted by huntsonora
Any updates?
Not yet, it has only been about 600 miles since the oil was installed. This car only sees about 7,000 miles/yr.
Any updates?
Not yet, it has only been about 600 miles since the oil was installed. This car only sees about 7,000 miles/yr.
Hopefully it works for you! Keep us posted.
Munch on this thread if you're getting antsy:
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4995896/1
I guess Cummins might partly subsidize the cost of this oil to truckers who run their faulty (ring carbon) ISX15 engines. https://www.thetruckersreport.com/t...sx15-carbon-packing-issues.802458/page-2
Originally Posted by G-MAN
Originally Posted by Lolvoguy
why's it so special?
According to the MSDS, it's got some pretty exotic base oils, including 50% ester (and I suspect this is a bio-based ester), and 30% PAO. This was developed specifically for Cummins by Valvoline and is only sold at Cummins service centers.
...and sold at https://www.ryderfleetproducts.com by the way.
With all those special chemicals, I'd think it would dissolve garbage well enough.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4995896/1
I guess Cummins might partly subsidize the cost of this oil to truckers who run their faulty (ring carbon) ISX15 engines. https://www.thetruckersreport.com/t...sx15-carbon-packing-issues.802458/page-2
Originally Posted by G-MAN
Originally Posted by Lolvoguy
why's it so special?
According to the MSDS, it's got some pretty exotic base oils, including 50% ester (and I suspect this is a bio-based ester), and 30% PAO. This was developed specifically for Cummins by Valvoline and is only sold at Cummins service centers.
...and sold at https://www.ryderfleetproducts.com by the way.
With all those special chemicals, I'd think it would dissolve garbage well enough.
We used this oil in our fleet of Cummins powered Peterbilts and it works. FWIW we made the switch to Mack. Better engine than Cummins.
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Wouldn't' $70 buy a lot of kreen, a solid group III synthetic, and a few filters? I'm not saying PBR doesn't work, but just wondering what's the most cost-effective path.
Originally Posted by jqgz
Wouldn't' $70 buy a lot of kreen, a solid group III synthetic, and a few filters? I'm not saying PBR doesn't work, but just wondering what's the most cost-effective path.
Might as well actually clean the ringlands out. Not sure other approaches work very well.
I like the fact that one can go from a quart of oil burned in 1,000 miles to about zero!
Originally Posted by Lignums
Usually that vehicle burns through almost a quart in 1000 miles, with this restore oil, and I suppose the cleaning of the rings, there was little to no usage!
When I changed my oil to the restore oil I was adamant about making sure the oil level was exactly to the full mark to monitor any usage.
I have used all kinds of oil in this vehicle with the hopes of lowering the usage, from 0w30 AFE, to all 5w30, hm oils, 10w30 hm, finally to 10w40 hm over the course of many years.
This situation is what led me to this wonderful website all those years ago, I just lurked for a very long time reading.
Wouldn't' $70 buy a lot of kreen, a solid group III synthetic, and a few filters? I'm not saying PBR doesn't work, but just wondering what's the most cost-effective path.
Might as well actually clean the ringlands out. Not sure other approaches work very well.
I like the fact that one can go from a quart of oil burned in 1,000 miles to about zero!
Originally Posted by Lignums
Usually that vehicle burns through almost a quart in 1000 miles, with this restore oil, and I suppose the cleaning of the rings, there was little to no usage!
When I changed my oil to the restore oil I was adamant about making sure the oil level was exactly to the full mark to monitor any usage.
I have used all kinds of oil in this vehicle with the hopes of lowering the usage, from 0w30 AFE, to all 5w30, hm oils, 10w30 hm, finally to 10w40 hm over the course of many years.
This situation is what led me to this wonderful website all those years ago, I just lurked for a very long time reading.
Saw this thread awhile back...subbed.
UPDATE #1:
1,645 miles since the oil change - vehicle is at 140,975.
I added .6 qt to bring the level up to full mark.
I think previously, I needed to add a full quart by the 2K mark, so this is definitely an improvement but it is not drastic...at least not yet.
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...ng-oil-after-full-syn-switch#Post4944713
1,645 miles since the oil change - vehicle is at 140,975.
I added .6 qt to bring the level up to full mark.
I think previously, I needed to add a full quart by the 2K mark, so this is definitely an improvement but it is not drastic...at least not yet.
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...ng-oil-after-full-syn-switch#Post4944713
According to page 3 it looks like Valvoline "tested" a clean-up drain interval of 5K for gasoline engines, so it may take some additional time for this oil to do its job:
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/e6/19/8e/24bb28eefcfd7e/US20170029734A1.pdf
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/e6/19/8e/24bb28eefcfd7e/US20170029734A1.pdf
Thanks for the update!
I would imagine that its just going to take time and miles, but it sounds positive so far.
I would imagine that its just going to take time and miles, but it sounds positive so far.
Would spraying Amsoil power foam down each cylinder help clean things up?
Originally Posted by ARB1977
Would spraying Amsoil power foam down each cylinder help clean things up?
Probably.
Would spraying Amsoil power foam down each cylinder help clean things up?
Probably.
Update #2:
909 miles since the oil was topped off to full.
2,554 miles since the oil was installed.
Total oil added so far: 2/3qt.
Oil level as of today:
909 miles since the oil was topped off to full.
2,554 miles since the oil was installed.
Total oil added so far: 2/3qt.
Oil level as of today:
Seems to be doing the trick.
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