Still, something is necessary, no? If the hybrids truly need additives for copper windings, I'd think Valvoline would want to be in this market. But, maybe they'll wait 'til the administration swings back the other way. Maybe sales are too low right now. Or they'll just work the "protection" into VNL and we're back to one-fluid-fits-mostI wouldn't be surprised if it gets discontinued.
Walmart's price was $5 a bottle. Something is going on. Either dumping older stock for new or being discontinued. 2 price drops and stock on shelves is 3+ years oldStill, something is necessary, no? If the hybrids truly need additives for copper windings, I'd think Valvoline would want to be in this market. But, maybe they'll wait 'til the administration swings back the other way. Maybe sales are too low right now. Or they'll just work the "protection" into VNL and we're back to one-fluid-fits-most
True. It's the only one advertised for Hybrids. I have 3 months before I do my drain and fill. I would like to use it but I'm not putting something in that's already 3 years old. Not how it should be.I like the idea of it but do question if there's really something to it or is it all marketing. Seems like if there was a real need for it other manufacturers would have a similar product.
I'm in the same boat. I was wanting to do it already but waiting for the weather to break. Just torn on what to use.True. It's the only one advertised for Hybrids. I have 3 months before I do my drain and fill. I would like to use it but I'm not putting something in that's already 3 years old. Not how it should be.
If I was torn on an ATF, I’d go right to amsoil, or check in with @Pablo, verify they have a fluid for your application, spend the extra $2 quart, buy more than you need for multiple drain/fills, and move from the “analysis-paralysis” to “ahh-yes.”I'm in the same boat. I was wanting to do it already but waiting for the weather to break. Just torn on what to use.
I have been an Amsoil guy for decades. I bought thousands of dollars of there oil the past 25 years. I would like to use their oil but it would like them to come out with their own Hybrid transaxle fluid or specify that their ATL fluid is copper safe. They don't mention anything at all about hybrid transmissions. So I an skeptical.If I was torn on an ATF, I’d go right to amsoil, or check in with @Pablo, verify they have a fluid for your application, spend the extra $2 quart, buy more than you need for multiple drain/fills, and move from the “analysis-paralysis” to “ahh-yes.”
ATL has been copper/brass corrosion tested as have all Amsoil ATF's. Yes they are yellow metal safe.I have been an Amsoil guy for decades. I bought thousands of dollars of there oil the past 25 years. I would like to use their oil but it would like them to come out with their own Hybrid transaxle fluid or specify that their ATL fluid is copper safe. They don't mention anything at all about hybrid transmissions. So I an skeptical.
Considering the fluid in the Camry is probably original (it's new to me) I'm sure it will still be an upgrade.As long as you don't have an issue with fluid already being 3 years old even before usage
Why would that matter? It's oil shake it and use it.As long as you don't have an issue with fluid already being 3 years old even before usage