Valvoline EP vs. PUP (Ultra)
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While I kid around about this all the time it is true, my mech told me he wished all jugs had this pour feature. Me, I like being able to tell it hasn't been tampered with right on the shelf.
I'm assuming both have the same SP rating. I'm really just seeking opinions on Valvoline's top rated 0w0 vs. Pennzoil's (which at one time was very highly regarded here.)
That is worth a lot. Funnel not really required.
Running the Valvoline currently in a sick engine. It didnt make it not knock when hot.
I ran Valvoline in my Ford 2L and it became sick - but that was bad fuel, IMO,
Bought some QSUD 10W30 for the big LONCHIN chonda powered toro snow thrower - It LOVES it. Was Magnatec 5W30 prior.
In the past VSP ran better in Subaru than any other major brand, ( M1, PP, QSUD) also ran better in my Nissan QR25DE by a WIDE margin. PP was terrible in all cars. IN the very distant past VSP didnt run quite right in anything.
I would try the Valvoline but QSUD is a safe bet.
I would avoid anything else, especially pp or Edge.
All this from recent and past experience, not guesswork.
- Ken
I ran Valvoline in my Ford 2L and it became sick - but that was bad fuel, IMO,
Bought some QSUD 10W30 for the big LONCHIN chonda powered toro snow thrower - It LOVES it. Was Magnatec 5W30 prior.
In the past VSP ran better in Subaru than any other major brand, ( M1, PP, QSUD) also ran better in my Nissan QR25DE by a WIDE margin. PP was terrible in all cars. IN the very distant past VSP didnt run quite right in anything.
I would try the Valvoline but QSUD is a safe bet.
I would avoid anything else, especially pp or Edge.
All this from recent and past experience, not guesswork.
- Ken
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I might switch from M1 to Valvoline just because of the bottle design
PUP 0w-20 has the SP/GF-6 approval on my jug.
If the vehicle in question is a General Motors car, PUP is not licensed for Dexos1 Gen 2.
YMMV on getting an SP-rated PUP jug
You'll also pretty much have to order PUP in, whereas VEP will likely be on the shelf at WalMart.
You can also get a $5 cashback rebate on a 5qt of VEP until 5/3/2022
So unless you have a particular affinity towards SOPUS, I would snag the VEP
YMMV on getting an SP-rated PUP jug
You'll also pretty much have to order PUP in, whereas VEP will likely be on the shelf at WalMart.
You can also get a $5 cashback rebate on a 5qt of VEP until 5/3/2022
So unless you have a particular affinity towards SOPUS, I would snag the VEP
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Probably the Ultra for me...just from everything I've read it's considered to be an oil that can almost hang with the boutique brands, in terms at least in the comparison charts put out by Amsoil a few years back. But who knows? Both are considered to be the flagship oils of their respective brands. The Valvoline appears to have a very stout add pack too. The Ultra has the GTL and add pack.
Can you link to that chart? I’d love to see how quality can be quantitatively compared within a license or approval.
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I was thinking the same.
I doubt there will be a difference over the life of the engine . I remember people here used to say Pennzoil Yellow bottle was the best oil that cleaned. Looking at the uoas and voas the add packages were similar to other similar tier oils. We seem to forget that despite marketing claims oil basically keeps the parts separated and to meet the specs is must past rigorous testing. .These days manufactures usually don't give away any more than they have to .
A few months ago a poster suggested that he would choose any SP rated oil over any SN rated one (I can't remember if he included SN+). I disagreed stating I would choose Mobil1 SN over virtually any SP dino (although most Xw20 'dinos' are now blends). So 'meeting licences' doesn't make oils equal IMO. OTOH..I do realize that using any brand oil that meets the vehicle manufacturers requirements will lead to a long engine life.
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