What happens if you don't use a approved engine oil in a volkswagon. That meets there standards. At my shop we sell only castrol. Does gtx meet this?
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Castrol Syntec 0w30 and Castrol Syntec 5W-40
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Originally Posted By: finalyzd
What happens if you don't use a approved engine oil in a volkswagon.
Depends on the Volkswagen, the oil, the OCIs, the driving style, the climate, etc. etc....
Originally Posted By: finalyzd
Does gtx meet this?
No. I don't think any conventional oil meets current VW specs.
What happens if you don't use a approved engine oil in a volkswagon.
Depends on the Volkswagen, the oil, the OCIs, the driving style, the climate, etc. etc....
Originally Posted By: finalyzd
Does gtx meet this?
No. I don't think any conventional oil meets current VW specs.
I just get a lot of customers come in wanting the cheapest. And there engines are nasty. If there turbo. Of course they get synthetic. I'm just thinking should I decline these customers since they don't want to use the proper oil?
I would make them aware of it and at least get them to sign a waiver stating the oil they want to use does not meet VW approval. That way your protected in case something does happen.
Ya if they don't care says it's your fault then when an oil related failure occurs.
Originally Posted By: milwaukee
Why would he need protection for selling something to a willing buyer?
Because when something hits the fan, the customer will try to blame everyone but himself. They'll most likely try to blame the repair shop saying that they were never told to use a specific oil. Hence the shop should protect itself by having something in writing, as Johnny suggested.
People tend to have selective hearing. They also only follow these maintenance rules that are convenient to them.
- 10K OCI? Great!
- Expensive synthetic oil? No way!
Recipe for disaster, IMO.
Why would he need protection for selling something to a willing buyer?
Because when something hits the fan, the customer will try to blame everyone but himself. They'll most likely try to blame the repair shop saying that they were never told to use a specific oil. Hence the shop should protect itself by having something in writing, as Johnny suggested.
People tend to have selective hearing. They also only follow these maintenance rules that are convenient to them.
- 10K OCI? Great!
- Expensive synthetic oil? No way!
Recipe for disaster, IMO.
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I had a lot of customers that did this. Example: At one of the lube centers I serviced a young fellow (street racer) brought in a brand new Subaru STi and wanted the oil changed with 20W-50 oil. The lube center owner showed him where Subaru recommended 5w30 and offered him Platinum 5w30 but the kid only wanted (I believe it was Castrol GTX 20W-50) because some bozo told him that's what he needed for his hot little car. So, the lube center owner made him sign on the work order that the recommended oil was refused and he installed the 20W-50 for the kid. One month later I making a call on my Subaru dealer and sure enough, that STi was in there with the engine out of it. Turbo was messed up and something to do with either bearings or seals in the engine. Service director told me the kid was SOL as he used the wrong oil in his car and the kid/or his parents had to pay the bill.
That's why you get them to sign a waiver. Protect your butt.
That's why you get them to sign a waiver. Protect your butt.
Originally Posted By: BobFout
Correct d00d, conventional oils haven't been allowed for 10 years. Piston design, and turbos on some, prohibit the usage of plant-matter oil.
I didn't know the part about piston design. What is it about the pistons that precludes conventional oils?
Correct d00d, conventional oils haven't been allowed for 10 years. Piston design, and turbos on some, prohibit the usage of plant-matter oil.
I didn't know the part about piston design. What is it about the pistons that precludes conventional oils?
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Originally Posted By: BobFout
Correct d00d, conventional oils haven't been allowed for 10 years. Piston design, and turbos on some, prohibit the usage of plant-matter oil.
I didn't know the part about piston design. What is it about the pistons that precludes conventional oils?
Ring position and oil squirters for underside cooling. HOT HOT HOT
Originally Posted By: BobFout
Correct d00d, conventional oils haven't been allowed for 10 years. Piston design, and turbos on some, prohibit the usage of plant-matter oil.
I didn't know the part about piston design. What is it about the pistons that precludes conventional oils?
Ring position and oil squirters for underside cooling. HOT HOT HOT
Originally Posted By: Johnny
I had a lot of customers that did this. Example: At one of the lube centers I serviced a young fellow (street racer) brought in a brand new Subaru STi and wanted the oil changed with 20W-50 oil. The lube center owner showed him where Subaru recommended 5w30 and offered him Platinum 5w30 but the kid only wanted (I believe it was Castrol GTX 20W-50) because some bozo told him that's what he needed for his hot little car. So, the lube center owner made him sign on the work order that the recommended oil was refused and he installed the 20W-50 for the kid. One month later I making a call on my Subaru dealer and sure enough, that STi was in there with the engine out of it. Turbo was messed up and something to do with either bearings or seals in the engine. Service director told me the kid was SOL as he used the wrong oil in his car and the kid/or his parents had to pay the bill.
That's why you get them to sign a waiver. Protect your butt.
The kid most likely spun the bearings and blew the turbo just from abuse alone not the wrong oil but it helped SoA win their case that's for sure.
Subies tend to like a thicker oil at temp..although 50 might be a bit much.
I had a lot of customers that did this. Example: At one of the lube centers I serviced a young fellow (street racer) brought in a brand new Subaru STi and wanted the oil changed with 20W-50 oil. The lube center owner showed him where Subaru recommended 5w30 and offered him Platinum 5w30 but the kid only wanted (I believe it was Castrol GTX 20W-50) because some bozo told him that's what he needed for his hot little car. So, the lube center owner made him sign on the work order that the recommended oil was refused and he installed the 20W-50 for the kid. One month later I making a call on my Subaru dealer and sure enough, that STi was in there with the engine out of it. Turbo was messed up and something to do with either bearings or seals in the engine. Service director told me the kid was SOL as he used the wrong oil in his car and the kid/or his parents had to pay the bill.
That's why you get them to sign a waiver. Protect your butt.
The kid most likely spun the bearings and blew the turbo just from abuse alone not the wrong oil but it helped SoA win their case that's for sure.
Subies tend to like a thicker oil at temp..although 50 might be a bit much.
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