Used minivans 2006-2008

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I'm sorta halfheartedly looking around at older used minivans say 06-08 for a couple of reasons I won't get into here. All of them seem to have issues as they age. I think I'm most interested in the Sienna because it seems to have a reliable transmission if it's treated well and serviced. But I'm open to other suggestions.

The Odyssey is a no-go because of the well-publicised transmission issues and the VCM issues noted by some on these forums including respected posters like Trav.

I don't trust Chrysler products.

The Kia/Hyundai vans seem to get terrible mileage from what people report, although I have had good luck with Kia in general.

Anyway, speaking of Siennas in particlar, some offer 8 passenger seating and I would prefer that.

Another thing I noticed about Siennas is that they switched from the 3.3 to the 3.5 engine in 2007, kind of looking for some real world experience with the two engines. The 3.3 was rated at 230HP up to 2006 when changes in SAE ratings is said to reduce the number to 215HP, although it's the same engine. The 3.5 has a lot more power - 266HP. But does it come with an attendant reduction in mileage? Or is it only if you go around flooring it all the time, does the additional power come with additional cost. Both the 3.3 and 3.5 of that era use a 5 speed auto, don't know when the 6 speed comes in but anything newer than 08 is probably beyond my cost comfort.

O7's in good condition with around 100K give or take 20K seem to go for around the upper 7000 range from private individuals, somewhat more from dealers.

I went to Siennachat looking for particular mechanical failure modes. Overheating these things seems to send your engine to the grave. One person mentioned that the thermostat housing cap is plastic and that his had come apart on the freeway, necessitating an engine replacement. Yikes.

Any other gotchas on these vans?
 
So you are better informed.

Honda Ody 2006-2008 did not have the transmission issues that were 2000-2004 and gave a bad rap. VCM was a feature on high level models only like EX-L and above between 2006-2008. You can tell by checking the MPG ratings. The higher ones on highway had VCM.

That being all said Sienna is a decent choice although the earlier ones required a timing belt changes (rare in Toyota).
 
Yeah Honda's of 2006-2008 had excellent bullet proof transmissions. The Honda and Toyota will be expensive. The Honda's transmission is WAY easier to service than the others due to the very simple 5 minute drop and fills that you do on them. I'd consider the Honda transmission of that year to be the best of the bunch, honestly. A 300K mile transmission, no problem.


The Chrysler will be a cheaper car by far, and to be honest they are not bad. I love my 2009 fully loaded $45K Town and Country that we bought slightly used with 23K miles for less than $15k. Crossing our fingers on the 6 speed transmission...
 
Mazda 5 and Kia Rondo
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The Quest is supposed to be good, too.
 
Honda automatic doors are much easier to fix than the Sienna's. My friend had to replace a little motor in his sienna and it took 2 hours- real PITA. Odyssey is really easy. Main failure point on odyssey doors is middle roller and it is easy to fix.
 
The 2006 Sienna uses a timing belt. 2007 and up use a timing chain. The 2007s have issues with rubber vvti oil hoses that may have been updated to a steel line. There are two hoses one for the engine and another for an oil cooler. If they fail you can blow the engine. It was part of a limited service campaign, so it wasn't mandatory.

Some people have rock solid siennas from 07 to 10 and others have gotten lemons. Check siennachat for more details.

I would look for A 2006 Sienna with the 3.3l engine. Remove the upper front valve cover to check for sludge.
 
Originally Posted By: Brons2
All of them seem to have issues as they age.


Yup, frankly not much more to discuss except budget for the bottom feeding.
 
My brother bought a 2007 Honda Odyssey Touring w/46K. It has adjustable pedals.
The rap on the car is that Honda bought/designed a new breed of trannie for the 2007 model year.
If I'm mistaken on that year please correct me.

His unit shifts beautifully. I've done 2 drain & fills so far.
The 3.5L has power and I haven't heard him complain about mileage but I doubt he keeps records.

His (Touring ed.) came with Michelin PAX and he decided to stick with them. Good thing too as he had a spate of back probs and his wife cannot change a wheel.

I love it. Kira
 
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Mazda 5 and Kia Rondo
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The Quest is supposed to be good, too.


I have a Kia Rondo now and it's been a great vehicle but I need something that can accommodate more than 5 passengers, that's the bottom line, and a minivan is the best way to do that.

The Mazda 5 is unacceptable, it doesn't have enough legroom in the front, I am 6'7" and my knees are jammed against the dash when I try to sit down in one, which is why I bought the Rondo in the first place.
 
Originally Posted By: Brons2
The Odyssey is a no-go because of the well-publicised transmission issues and the VCM issues noted by some on these forums including respected posters like Trav.


My wife's 2006 Pilot hasn't had any issues. Should be the same engine and transmission in the minivan. The VCM doesn't bother me much at all and it hasn't caused any mechanical issues.
 
I see them all in my engine shop they all have their problems... Hyundai and Kia makes a great reliable vehicle. As for Chrysler they make a nice vehicle also they had their trans problems but their van are durable and their engines are good.
 
Our family had an 06 Odyssey EX-L. I was the primary driver the last two years we had it 'cause my son talked me into giving him my F150. I traded it in on a new truck nearly 2 years ago. At that time it had 225K mi and ran great. Transmission working perfectly. Engine (with the VCM) was as Honda-smooth as the day we bought it. The ONLY minor issue the van had was a very small rear main leak that I kept to a near zero leakage by using high mileage oil and changing it out at ~40% OLM instead of my normal ~15% OLM. No doubt it was the very best vehicle I have ever owned reliability wise.
 
I have a 2008 sienna with 212,000 miles on it and have not had a repair yet. I do or have done the maintenance when it should be done. I go 12,500 miles on an oil change with a fram ultra oil filter and Mobil 1 Extended Performance 5w30 oil. It does not use any oil between oil changes.A great van! I drive it 28,000 to 30,000 per year. I get 28-29 mpg's on the hwy @ 65 mph with the ac on. I'm going to see if I can get 500,000 miles on it. Thank You, Bill
 
That range of Odyssey shouldn't have transmission issues. Honda pretty much fixed their V-6 transmission problems in the 2005 time frame. Our 2005 MDX has 127k miles and our 2009 Ridgeline has 98k miles. Both on original transmissions, and I expect at least another 100k miles out of both.
 
Brons- Like said, the 2007+ Honda Odyssey has the better 4-shaft transmission that originated in the 4wd Ridgeline and Pilot. We had a 2008 Ody LX for over 5yrs. It was a great van.

A 2007+ Ody or Sienna would be great if you can find one at a price you're willing to pay.

I wouldn't necessarily count out Dodge/Chrysler minivans. I'm very pleased with our 2013 Grand Caravan SE. We're at the 37K mile mark. The Pentastar and 62TE trans is an excellent combo, plus the suspension and brake upgrades on ~2012+ make them great vans IMO. You could probably find a ~2012 Grand Caravan for the price of a 2007-08 Honda or Toyota.
 
On paper, the 2004-2010 Sienna have the best legroom and headroom in their class.

In reality, I'm 6'7" and my knees were jammed into the steering wheel in a 2009. The van I sat in had tilt but not telescoping wheel. Telescoping might have helped.

I sat in a 2014 Dodge and the weatherstripping on the sliding door was already coming apart. Yuck.

The 2014 Kia Sedona had worse headroom than my Rondo. My head bumped into the sliding door track.

The best was the 2011 Nissan, but I wasn't looking for anything that expensive.
 
2005-2010 Odyssey are the same generation. 2007 got a different transmission but 05 and 06 aren't really known to be trouble prone like 2004 and earlier. VCM is on 2005-2010 EX-L and higher trim levels and is really not a high failure item either. I have an 05 EX-L, 150,000 miles and no signs of dying anytime soon. I imagine if you aren't a DYI'er fixing small things could get expensive, but that is true with all vehicles.
 
I have driven an Odyssey before but it was an '03 and I don't remember how the legroom was on it. A number of people have told me the transmissions are better in the newer ones, so I'll keep that in mind.

At this point I may just keep my Rondo though. It's got 105K and it runs good, shifts well, AC works, etc. Needs a new radio though, the volume knob jumps around unpredictably, and the struts need to be replaced all around. Also needs plugs and it's regular 15K transmission drain and fill, in the maintenance category.
 
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
I love my 2009 fully loaded $45K Town and Country that we bought slightly used with 23K miles for less than $15k. Crossing our fingers on the 6 speed transmission...


Holy depreciation batman!
 
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