Most people would charge at home when sleeping anyway.
US Crosses the Electric-Car Tipping Point for Mass Adoption
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Ours was free. We had a 40 a service box and when we redid the house a couple years ago the electric company did it free of charge. Likely so that they could put in the smart meter.
We won't worry till our Tv tells me to worry !!
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No it doesn’t. Not even close.
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I think Canada is worse, per capita, but using per capita in this context isn't being honest, as we are both huge nations with massive landmasses and parts of our climate are very northern and cold during part of the year. The US has the additional problem of spreading quite southern and having to deal with air conditioning conditions that Europe doesn't.
Both our countries are well established first world nations with high standards of living. Comparatively, the largest overall emitters, India and China, are still emerging economies with large portions of their population living in abject poverty.
Reducing Canada per capita emissions, since we are only 1.7% of global emissions, will do very little. On the other hand, preventing China emissions from increasing, as their standard of living increases, has a massive impact, because they are the largest single emitter. If they were able to reduce emissions overall, it would have an even bigger effect.
I don't really care which direction the technology goes, electric or ICE is fine. I will say the EV side has good side effects if it works out, as in reduced maintenance.
I drive more miles than probably anybody on this site, and I consider cars as just a tool, there is no love affair with them.
I want comfort, which means smooth and quiet, as you move to electric this becomes a more common trait. But again, ICE can be the same on this, most of the time that effort is less on this though.
As EVs get better and more common there will still be old men sitting on their front porch in a rocker shaking their cane and cursing at this new fangled technology. (I'm 66)
Look at the evolution of cell phones, EVs will probably follow a similar path. It will be rough in the beginning with all the new challenges, but over time these will be solved or worked around. It is possible that at some point there will be a problem that almost halts the progress. But with so much money and resources being invested into EVs these challenges will probably be resolved in some way. It may better, equal to, or worse than current ICE technology, but it will most likely happen.
I drive more miles than probably anybody on this site, and I consider cars as just a tool, there is no love affair with them.
I want comfort, which means smooth and quiet, as you move to electric this becomes a more common trait. But again, ICE can be the same on this, most of the time that effort is less on this though.
As EVs get better and more common there will still be old men sitting on their front porch in a rocker shaking their cane and cursing at this new fangled technology. (I'm 66)
Look at the evolution of cell phones, EVs will probably follow a similar path. It will be rough in the beginning with all the new challenges, but over time these will be solved or worked around. It is possible that at some point there will be a problem that almost halts the progress. But with so much money and resources being invested into EVs these challenges will probably be resolved in some way. It may better, equal to, or worse than current ICE technology, but it will most likely happen.
There has been much skepticism on Bob about whether 5% of new vehicle sales being EVs is a tipping point.
But at some point, you start to see a lot of EVs, there are enough EVs that it pays business people to install charging stations, and that means there are suddenly enough charging stations to reassure potential buyers, and (because of the rising sales issue) manufacturers feel they have to get into the business.
So there will be a tipping pint. And if analysis shows that the tipping point is 5% what evidence is there to say it isn't.
For the EV skeptics in the crowd, everywhere we go people want to talk about our Tesla. There is great interest in the practicality and the driving experience. Only one of my friends has been openly hostile towards EVs, and he admits that's because he spent his career in the oil industry, and feels it would be disloyal to now turn his back on ICEs. But wouldn't you know it, he also wanted to take the Tesla for a test drive and really enjoyed it.
But at some point, you start to see a lot of EVs, there are enough EVs that it pays business people to install charging stations, and that means there are suddenly enough charging stations to reassure potential buyers, and (because of the rising sales issue) manufacturers feel they have to get into the business.
So there will be a tipping pint. And if analysis shows that the tipping point is 5% what evidence is there to say it isn't.
For the EV skeptics in the crowd, everywhere we go people want to talk about our Tesla. There is great interest in the practicality and the driving experience. Only one of my friends has been openly hostile towards EVs, and he admits that's because he spent his career in the oil industry, and feels it would be disloyal to now turn his back on ICEs. But wouldn't you know it, he also wanted to take the Tesla for a test drive and really enjoyed it.
Asking because you mentioned NEMA 14-50 which are rated up to 50amps
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I'm seeing increasingly more EV's in my area (Eastern Nebraska) so they do seem to be picking up. Mostly Tesla and Kia so far.
That's the entire charging system. It could hardly be simpler.The Tesla charging cable is NEMA 14-50 style. The RWD cars can accept 32A max.
My charger looks just the same, though my charging cable coils up on the floor and your outlet is upside down.
Tesla Model 3s are quite common in my area - southern Vancouver Island. We have the ideal situation for an EV - mild climate in the summer and winter (quite similar to Seattle), relatively short distances, and very high fuel prices.
Model 3s are the new Civic/Corolla/BMW 3/everything here. There are at last 3 on my street alone. There goes the neighborhood...
Charging cable organizer.That's the entire charging system. It could hardly be simpler.
My charger looks just the same, though my charging cable coils up on the floor and your outlet is upside down.
Yeah, I know it's upside down. I've been accused of worse...
What's a poor boy to do?
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The builder I wire for now has me put one 50 amp 240v in garage and one on brick on front garage corner for future use
Beautiful.
Why? 95% of the time you'll be charging at home at night while you're asleep.
There is nothink like starting each day with a full tank...
If the grid can handle AC during day time, it can handle EV during mid-night to 6am.
What makes you think US would have this? Who are we buying energy from that we are going to have a war with? If anything we have more sources for electricity than gasoline and if anything we will just pay more for natural gas so they are not selling oversea.
I have seen war fought on oil but never on electricity.
Problem with Germany is they don't have their own energy source, so they have to import no matter what. The good thing about vehicles in Germany is they don't drive as far as Americans typically do, so their range does not need to be as big or need to charge as long as people in US typically need to.
The bigger market though, for EV is the urban upper middle class at the moment (around the world), and then gradually trickle down to lower middle class when mature. There will be enough demand for EV for daily commute and long distance SUVs / pickup. You don't need to stop selling one for the other. Sure you love your SUVs and pickups, just like back in the days people love their horses and wagons, it doesn't mean trains and gasoline vehicles are not good if they are never as good as horses.
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