United ordering 15 supersonic jets from startup

[4WD]

American Airlines bets on supersonic travel with Boom jet deal

American Airlines Group Inc on Tuesday agreed to buy up to 20 jets from aircraft maker Boom Supersonic, becoming the second major U.S. airline to bet on ultra-fast passenger travel in the last two years.

www.reuters.com

AA should get the fast jets but keep the schedule the same for a year to get their on time arrivals on par …
J/K … seems they are all late these days … actually AA‘s B773 business class is nice (1-2-1)

Boom jets will not carry more than 80 passengers - that part will be challenging in some facets of the business …

 

[Astro14]

American Airlines bets on supersonic travel with Boom jet deal

American Airlines Group Inc on Tuesday agreed to buy up to 20 jets from aircraft maker Boom Supersonic, becoming the second major U.S. airline to bet on ultra-fast passenger travel in the last two years.

www.reuters.com

American has been following United’s decisions for the past few years. They’re playing catch up.

United supports Boom, orders jets. A year or two later, American orders jets.

Growth, retaining pilots, big orders for new jets, expand routes, new interiors, remove change fees - All things United did first, and then American followed United’s lead.

 

[LowMilesLesabre]

Did you see the video? The examples they used were Newark-Heathrow, Newark-Frankfurt, and San Francisco-Narita. I think United just returned to JFK, but not for international flights. I found it rather odd that they've settled on EWR as their NYC area hub.

Not sure what your experience is in that region, but I used to make lots of flights to the New York City area on Continental/United and EWR was, and is,the largest of the three airports that serve NYC. It’s hard to visualize until you actually travel by plane into New York, but the other two airports, JFK and LaGuardia, are smaller and all of these airports are smooshed and crammed for space as is everything in that area due to the high density. Most of the time, I often needed to get into Midtown in the city and EWR was right across the Hudson River and actually a lot more convenient than flying into JFK and taking the A-Train all the way down from Long Island. There can be situations where the other two airports are more convenient but it really depends on what part of the city you’re headed to. Having used all three airports, I actually preferred EWR because it had more gates, more flight options, and getting into Manhattan was not a big deal as train service regularly ran under the Hudson and brought you right into Manhattan. Given United Airlines’ size, I can see why they would choose EWR versus the other two. I believe JetBlue highly utilizes JFK and I don’t remember which airlines relied more on LaGuardia. Delta airlines maybe? I should mention however that the customer service with JetBlue always far exceeded that of United. Not sure how things are these days although I generally feel that flying in an airplane can be the equivalent of being on a crappy bus with wings and that was in better times. Sadly, I am too young to have experienced air travel during the era of my parents and grandparents because listening to their descriptions of it, it was an entire other universe from what we have today and I’m including business class in that assessment.

 

[BusyLittleShop]

The TU144 and concord look similar and this looks similar to them... must be something to the design.

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[nthach]

It looks very similar to the Concorde.

I read that the idea is to have these on select routes like NYC-London or LAX-Tokyo for example.

It is very forward thinking on the part of United.

Another idea is SFO/LAX to China. SFO-PVG is well known at United for having lots of Apple employees use it as a shuttle(I think Apple is a very important client to United as well) to visit their manufacturing base in Asia.

Apple pays United so much for corporate travel it may help upgrade its SFO terminal

$150 million a year gets you a seat at the table, apparently

www.theverge.com

 

[y_p_w]

Another idea is SFO/LAX to China. SFO-PVG is well known at United for having lots of Apple employees use it as a shuttle(I think Apple is a very important client to United as well) to visit their manufacturing base in Asia.

Apple pays United so much for corporate travel it may help upgrade its SFO terminal

$150 million a year gets you a seat at the table, apparently

www.theverge.com

SJC would make more sense, but there are no direct flights to Asia now. They used to have a few - I remember ANA had nonstops to Osaka before they pulled out.

 

[97prizm]

The TU144 and concord look similar and this looks similar to them... must be something to the design.

Rumor has it that Concorde tickets were very expensive, wonder if this will be so expensive to operate the tickets have to be prohibitively expensive.

Concorde tickets were $12-15,000 round trip, yet they still lost money on every flight.

 

[Astro14]

Concorde tickets were $12-15,000 round trip, yet they still lost money on every flight.

Actually, BA was making money on Concorde when it was retired. I went to war college with the Royal Navy Reserve. The Commodore was BA’s chief pilot for Concorde. Over a glass (or three, or four) of port, we talked about Concorde.

That it was profitable was one of his big talking points.

AF might have been losing money on it, and keeping it flying out of pride, but BA was making money with the jet.

 

[Astro14]

Another idea is SFO/LAX to China. SFO-PVG is well known at United for having lots of Apple employees use it as a shuttle(I think Apple is a very important client to United as well) to visit their manufacturing base in Asia.

Apple pays United so much for corporate travel it may help upgrade its SFO terminal

$150 million a year gets you a seat at the table, apparently

www.theverge.com

Even bigger is SFO-CTU. Lots of tech companies in Chengdu. We fly non stop on a 787.

 

[nthach]

SJC would make more sense, but there are no direct flights to Asia now. They used to have a few - I remember ANA had nonstops to Osaka before they pulled out.

I think I’ve seen ads for JAL having a non-stop between SJC-NRT/HND on BART. Probably to target Hitachi(San Jose) and Sony(PlayStation is headquartered in Foster City) staffers in the Bay Area.

 

[y_p_w]

I think I’ve seen ads for JAL having a non-stop between SJC-NRT/HND on BART. Probably to target Hitachi(San Jose) and Sony(PlayStation is headquartered in Foster City) staffers in the Bay Area.

There are just way too many Japanese tech companies in Silicon Valley to really point to just one or two. I've interviewed at Sony's electronics office in San Jose. Also - I don't think Hitachi is much of a player any more as most of their divisions have been sold off. I'd think that it's the combination of all these companies that would determine whether or not it makes financial sense to offer a San Jose to Japan route and whether or not just SFO would be enough. Also - I think the ANA flight I was thinking of was to Narita.

One of the more interesting (and not necessarily related) things was that when visiting Intel on several occasions, I heard announcements for ground transportation to their air shuttle flights. They fly out of SJC for Silicon Valley, but they also fly out of smaller, more convenient airports like Hillsboro, Oregon and Mather Airport (near Folsom - the former Mather Air Force Base). The one in Arizona mentioned here must be at Phoenix-Mesa Gateway Airport.

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