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No fuel dilution reported as it was not part of the test. Satisfactory results.
Just wanna give an update...In the latest SDS (version 2.6), there's no more GTL listed. Instead, they list mostly just Group III. As well as the extended protection line. Why they changed it? I don't know...Natural gas GTL oils have some great properties but Pennzoil isn’t the only oil in town that uses them. Just look at the sds for restore and protect
Valvoline Restore and Protect 0w-20: 60-80% GTL
Valvoline Restore and Protect 5w-20: 45-70% GTL
Valvoline Restore and Protect 5w30: 30-60% GTL
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Probably found a cheaper way to blend maximize their profits. I totally get it. Imagine how great the oil could be if these majors just wanted to make the best product possible without blending to a price point.Just wanna give an update...In the latest SDS (version 2.6), there's no more GTL listed. Instead, they list mostly just Group III. As well as the extended protection line. Why they changed it? I don't know...![]()
Natural gas GTL oils have some great properties but Pennzoil isn’t the only oil in town that uses them. Just look at the sds for restore and protect
Valvoline Restore and Protect 0w-20: 60-80% GTL
Valvoline Restore and Protect 5w-20: 45-70% GTL
Valvoline Restore and Protect 5w30: 30-60% GTL
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Another update...The "latest" SDS is back to 2.4, which shows GTL content. The supposedly "newer" version 2.6 is...removed? Weird.Just wanna give an update...In the latest SDS (version 2.6), there's no more GTL listed. Instead, they list mostly just Group III. As well as the extended protection line. Why they changed it? I don't know...![]()
Curious why you “gave up” on Pennzoil ? I switched away from Pennzoil due to being a thin 30 weight and because Pennzoil didn’t keep engines as clean as marketing said it would (PPPP) . Maybe Pennzoil Ultra Platinum is a different story but I had already moved on to Mobil 1 5w30, Mobil 1 Extended Performance, then Mobil 1 ESP 0w30. Any of the Mobil 1 oils keeps a cleaner engine in my opinion. I am trying Valvoline Restore and Protect now due to some oil consumption so hoping for ring pack cleaning - if not using Valvoline Restore and Protect currently I was happy with the Mobil 1 ESP 0w30.I gave up on Pennzoil, so if I had a need to clean an engine I'd go with Restore and Protect. Otherwise I'll be sticking with ESP and worry about what to use next once my stash is depleted.
Valvoline Restore and ProtectWalmart carries both for $30.
What one are your getting and why?
Another difference is Mobil 1 ESP has a significant list of OEM approvals …I've been reading about Mobil 1 ESP maintaining cleanliness properties, so I like that. Pennzoil Ultra Platinum has it's pluses as well on maintaining cleanliness. But the bonus is Pennz's rebate. Buy 2 and get a $25 giftcard.
Like Jerry Jeff Walker and his womenI like a filthy engine so I vote neither
I was one of the early adopters circa API SM, the dark gray bottles. It was touted as the best here by many well respected members. Later on many here were saying they messed with the formula. In any event used oil analysis for my van using it weren't great, so I switched to ESP, touted as the best once again, this time I agree.Curious why you “gave up” on Pennzoil ? I switched away from Pennzoil due to being a thin 30 weight and because Pennzoil didn’t keep engines as clean as marketing said it would (PPPP) . Maybe Pennzoil Ultra Platinum is a different story but I had already moved on to Mobil 1 5w30, Mobil 1 Extended Performance, then Mobil 1 ESP 0w30. Any of the Mobil 1 oils keeps a cleaner engine in my opinion. I am trying Valvoline Restore and Protect now due to some oil consumption so hoping for ring pack cleaning - if not using Valvoline Restore and Protect currently I was happy with the Mobil 1 ESP 0w30.