Ultra Platinum or Restore and Protect
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Both. PZ when it’s rebate time. VRP just to try something new cause why not.
I gave up on Pennzoil, so if I had a need to clean an engine I'd go with Restore and Protect. Otherwise I'll be sticking with ESP and worry about what to use next once my stash is depleted.
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Both have their strengths. VRP if you have an engine that consumes oil or you bought used and suspect it might have been neglected. PUP is a great choice for engines that are new or already fairly clean. Once I’m done running a few intervals with VRP I may just go with PUP in my Civic (it’s on my short list, also considering M1 EP HM or Edge EP)
I'd go Valvoline R&P but it's actually a coin flip. Both quality oils.
I like R&P's claims of cleaning so would go that route if consumption was high. Unfortunately, only places like Australia get 10w-40 R&P so not many options above 5w-30. Ultra should be a very fine oil & have run it without hesitation. Matched with a Pennzoil rebate makes it pretty good deal.
Natural gas GTL oils have some great properties but Pennzoil isn’t the only oil in town that uses them. Just look at the sds for restore and protect
R&P 0w-20: 60-80% GTL
R&P 5w-20: 45-70% GTL
R&P 5w-30: 30-60% GTL
I see there was a recent revision. Now using GTL. Good to know, thanks.
Both are great products, flip a coin and choose one.
I've been on the PUP train for a while for several cars in the family that I maintain. Had great experience with them thus far. But for these same engines (0W-20 and 5W-30 uses), I'm switching to VRP. The reason? I want very clean piston oil control rings.
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Can't speak to the PUP, which I'm sure is a fine product, but I posted a UOA for VRP in the subforum. Long and short, the wear metals in the 5000 mile used sample were indistinguishable from a virgin sample. In other words, basically zero wear metals detected that could be attributed to engine wear. That's a fairly compelling reason for me.
I have not pulled any UOA on my 3) 3,000 miles fall-spring and a 4th VRP is up coming in 2-3 weeks, late spring and summer my car will get my stash of 5w-40 Motul 8100-Clean Gen2. This VRP 5w-30 has been the cleanest running oil ever in my car. Nothing has run cleaner as far as color, most all my top tier brands ( Amsoil, Redline Performance Euro, Mobil 1 Extended, Mobile ESP/2 years, Penz Ultra, and Motul), run to black at my 3,000 mile dump, this stuff is still in the brown/black color. I think I will pull a UOA and send it to the large local CAT dealers lab where I have a couple other pulls. No need for Polaris Lab, since I no longer have massive fuel dilution problems like I use to have.
PUP is too hard to find locally, so I ran PP for the better part of a decade and my Odyssey varnished pretty heavily on the OLM interval. So I'm running VRP now and it's visibly cleaning things in the overhead.
It's not really hard data, but more like one man's anecdotal experience, so that suggest to me VRP is the better option.
It's another matter entirely as to whether that difference matters.
It's not really hard data, but more like one man's anecdotal experience, so that suggest to me VRP is the better option.
It's another matter entirely as to whether that difference matters.
I had used Pennzoil Ultra Platinum for 7 years back from 2013 to about 2020. It was more expensive than most other oils during that time.
I never noticed any benefit from it whatsoever. I don't even own that car anymore. Money wasted that I can never get back.
Now, I just use Super Tech HMFS 5W-30 at 5,000 mile OCI. I'm convinced that using either Pennzoil Ultra Platinum or Super Tech HMFS Dexos 1 Gen 3 for 300,000 miles would yield identical results if the engines were opened.
I have 4 vehicles that various family members use for very long commutes totally 34k, 20k, 20k, 10k miles a year.
So the savings will be about $1,000 over the next 6 years by using Super Tech HMFS versus Pennzoil Ultra Platinum.
I never noticed any benefit from it whatsoever. I don't even own that car anymore. Money wasted that I can never get back.
Now, I just use Super Tech HMFS 5W-30 at 5,000 mile OCI. I'm convinced that using either Pennzoil Ultra Platinum or Super Tech HMFS Dexos 1 Gen 3 for 300,000 miles would yield identical results if the engines were opened.
I have 4 vehicles that various family members use for very long commutes totally 34k, 20k, 20k, 10k miles a year.
So the savings will be about $1,000 over the next 6 years by using Super Tech HMFS versus Pennzoil Ultra Platinum.
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iirc Valvoline EP High Mileage is mostly GTL according to the sds sheet, you also see it in a lot of Mobil 1 oils. None of them make it a marketing point like Pennzoil does.Good to know. Thanks buddy
It’s like when I learned castrol edge 5w-50 had a high level of zddp that most other oils make a big deal to point out but their marking angle is focused on the power of titanium.
would you be able to post a link? can't seem to find it.
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Pennzoil coupons good til August.