I am not sure that is an argument for. It is not as bad as, IDK, Nissan Versa? We are talking vehicle that in the Platinum version costs easily 60k with tax (before this market adjustment nonsense). It kind of proves that you are getting 36k vehicle with goodies.Most of the things that you mention being negatives, would probably not be an issue for me. I've rented one of these before and the droning is not that bad compared to some other CVT cars that I've driven. Don't care about the ground clearance. 2nd row not folding flat is a bit of an issue for Home Depot runs but I could probably look past it. When some of these get 3-4 years old maybe I'll try to pick one up.
The fuel mileage is a huge feature for us. I averaged 46 on the one I rented, mostly lower speeds around town. I don't think it's realistic to think I could get that long term, but I'd be thrilled with 35. My navi averages 12-14. It's better now that gas is cheaper but when it was over $4 it sat a lot more.
OK, here is how it looks. House is built in 2014, so it is new building codes etc. Here is third car garage door. It is single door separated by pillar from double car garage door. That side, if you look at the fridge, has like deeper ending, by about 3ft. So minivan can actually be parked there. and still have some space for tires.You must have an extremely small/tight 3 car garage? Don't understand how a minivan can't fit either in width or length anywhere regardless of the mirrors.
There are options to get a longer garage with many builders but nobody around here is giving any options whatsoever anymore, due to the supply chain issues. Hopefully we'll get back to that at some point.It’s a very tight garage. Lots of newer houses don’t build for large cars anymore.
I just built 9X9 shed to move some stuff.Yeah I now see that you are kind of stuck with the space constraints...I was expecting it to be larger. Also kudos for not being the typical junk-hording American and actually being able to fit the number of cars in your garage that it is supposed to hold (minus your specific scenario...that's the house's fault).
When we were about to get a house in 2014, we were thinking to build. But the lady who built this house could not close it for whatever reason. And the house has a walkout basement and a covered deck above that gets accessed from the kitchen and living room. And the back side faces the park. There was no one behind, so we jumped on it. The condition was to have three car garage, but I could not do anything about size anymore. Our friends just got a house in Castle Rock, north of here, and built in 2004. Much bigger three-car garage!There are options to get a longer garage with many builders but nobody around here is giving any options whatsoever anymore, due to the supply chain issues. Hopefully we'll get back to that at some point.
They don’t thrive on the abuse. I mean, they do if you ignore issues. In 55k I had Sienna I came to third set if brakes bcs. I drive it same way as BMW. Suspension was shot completely at 80. Could I ignor it? Maybe. My neighbor has 3rd generation Sienna that I can hear 100yrd away clunking, but she claims she never had issues.Just get a cheap used Grand Caravan and beat on it like it owes you money. Cold start flooring it out if a snow covered driveway on 2 year old oil? No big deal. Wife opens the hatch and garage door at the same time? You’ll have a dent, or you’ll break the garage door, but the hatch will still seal and open/close properly. Need to fold the mirrors in? Just drag them along the garage door opening! They THRIVE on the abuse!
Totally not speaking from experience. Oh… it hasn’t been washed since 2019 when we bought it.
I was joking that the Grand Caravan thrives on abuse lol 🤣They don’t thrive on the abuse. I mean, they do if you ignore issues. In 55k I had Sienna I came to third set if brakes bcs. I drive it same way as BMW. Suspension was shot completely at 80. Could I ignor it? Maybe. My neighbor has 3rd generation Sienna that I can hear 100yrd away clunking, but she claims she never had issues.
I need vehicle for 7,000 miles road trips nit daily. My daily is BMW. I ain’t driving Sienna nor any other minivan SUV everyday when I have stick shift in garage, no matter mpg etc.