AZjeff
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Great review. Too bad it disappointed you.
The doors itself doesn’t have airbags. You are getting confused with the side curtain airbags that drop from the ceiling
Putting in side thorax airbags in the 2nd row seats to compliment the curtain air bags costs more money
And yes, you were confusing the curtain airbag from a non-existent door airbag, and it totally disputes your "Bogus Toyota argument"Maybe it didn’t have, though I remember seeing airbag sign on doors.
No I am not confusing curtain airbag. But, congratulations to you knowing how to distinguish roof placed airbags from doors, if you think that is big deal.
Still, they could do some workaround by placing airbag’s elsewhere.
Sure. I get that. But than, they could bother but more and figure it out.Since the 2nd row can slide back and forth... placing the thorax airbag on the seatback is the optimal position. Why do you think the front side impact airbag is on the front seat backs instead of say... the "A-pillar"? Optimal position to protect the front seat occupants no matter the seat position and recline of the seatback.
Toyota wanted to advertise how safe the car is compared to competitors in the segment.Sure. I get that. But than, they could bother but more and figure it out.
Again, for me it is not big deal. I never removed seats from old one too as I didn’t needed it and once I did, Toyota made it super complicated to do it.
They could go fixed switch or something. IDK, someone could brainstorm it.
As I said, it is not an issue for me and since I am not getting a car, not sure why would I get something like that?Toyota wanted to advertise how safe the car is compared to competitors in the segment.
It's really no different than other cars... the SRS diagnostics is testing the resistance at the airbag initiator.
So... get a resistor for the electrical connector and problem message goes away.
Such as:
Airbag Simulator/Emulator for Toyota & Lexus - Brad's Hacks
These dongles emulate the presence of an airbag when plugged into a 4th-generation Toyota Sienna or other Toyota/Lexus/Scion.bradshacks.com
Other drivers can crash into a Sienna that is sitting at a stop sign or a red light for instance. So... brakes on a Sienna will be of no value and airbags and the crash structure will.As I said, it is not an issue for me and since I am not getting a car, not sure why would I get something like that?
There are always walk arounds when it comes to stuff like this.
On another topic, if tgey really want to get better than competition when it comes to safety, they could start from brakes, so they actually don’t need to utilize airbags.
I am just saying, that if that was their goal, since vehicles are moving forward, most of the time, here is their opportunity.Other drivers can crash into a Sienna that is sitting at a stop sign or a red light for instance. So... brakes on a Sienna will be of no value and airbags and the crash structure will.
In less than 5 minutes. And every Odyssey comes with bench and captain's chairs. And once the middle seat is out the chairs can slide left to right as well as fore-aft.As far as I know in Odyssey seats can be removed.
Hybrid is only FWD.Chrysler Pacifica has an AWD version, but I don’t think in hybrid form. Not sure why you’re looking at Toyotas when it’s clear you hate them.
You may think you hate Chrysler more, but have you driven their minivan? It may surprise use you.
The previous SIenna was not at all a great vehicle to drive, even in AWD. To me, all these minivans are the same malarky, different packages.Not impressed in general or when compared to Sienna? Granted I don’t have much exposure to the new minivans, but my Dodge minivan is very comparable in driving dynamics to 2015 Sienna FWD.
I was driven in Pacifica Hybrid and it rode nice and quiet. But that’s about it as far as my experience with it.
Seats I agree, but your kids are still in child seats, and then will be in boosters, so they will not see any benefits from more comfortable seats. For short rides, around an hour, I don’t find the middle seats that bad for adults. But for longer drive they are not great for sure.
One thing hung is for sure, you don’t have too many options available.
The plastic between the driver and passenger, where the shifter, and cupholders are, looks nice, but at the touch is seriously cheap.One of my few gripes about my Rav4 Hybrid has been the super scratch prone interior panel's. I see they're using the same plastic on this Sienna as well. If you do end up buying one, be careful of things rolling around in the back and scratching the hell out of your plastics.
Here are some more photos:
This is where they could put a button for RCTA and it would be a breeze to cancel it every time it recycles itself.
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Same color as my brother's van. He picked up the last one the dealer received in '21. Supposedly the front end was designed to resemble a bullet train in Japan. Probably my least favorite design aspect of the van. Sides and back look fine. In performance mode it seems peppy enough.Here are some more photos:
This is where they could put a button for RCTA and it would be a breeze to cancel it every time it recycles itself.
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Relly useful. It is bigger space than it was in old Sienna. View attachment 129441
Layout is good. Old SIenna had a layout like they were doing lottery where to place buttons.
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It is cluttered, especially info screen. Not sure why 160mph is needed. Only way this car will go 110mph is down the Pikes Peak, on a side of mountain. That made numbers small:
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Hinges still look weak. Although they added second arm to prevent motor damage, hinges might still be an issue:
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Good environment. While design of a vehicle might not age well, I think this part will look OK later.
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Obvious advantage of minivan. Just throw things in:
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IMO, design is OK:
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NO, nope, no, no way, over my dead body:
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That row of blank plates would drive me crazy.