TRIAX Max Oil Booster S7

[garageman402]

I know Triax has been bashed on here, but some of the analyses I've seen of their other products look pretty good. I just came across this on Amazon. Any thoughts?

 

[GR_CoB]

You may get lots of replies, but I'll go ahead and summarize all of them for you: "Oil additives bad. Unless they sponsor BITOG."

 

[OVERKILL]

I know Triax has been bashed on here, but some of the analyses I've seen of their other products look pretty good. I just came across this on Amazon. Any thoughts?

Engine oils are fully formulated products that don't need "boosting" and adding high quantities of certain additives can have unintended consequences and may actually reduce performance. I'm curious what kind of "analysis" you've seen that allows you to make the determination that these products were "pretty good"?

Regarding the dig by Vlad about HPL being a board sponsor and their engine cleaner not being put through the wringer, it was initially criticized, including by myself, but that changed (and he actually changed the name of the product) because we know what the product is comprised of, because the owner is a member and was quite upfront about it just being a normally formulated PCMO with a vastly increased dose of POE to remove deposits. This is somewhat similar to a previous product that was popular on here called AutoRX, which worked on the same principle.

Dave isn't saying his engine cleaner is "SUPER BOOSTED ENGINE REJUVINATOR 9,000!!!!" and that it INCREAESES YOUR OIL'S TESTERONE SO MUCH ITS BALLS WILL HAVE BALLS ON THEIR BALLS!!!. It's a single purpose product (cleaner) not being pitched in any way to improve your existing lubricant or do anything extraordinary, it's simply an oil with a much higher concentration of esters that can clean up deposits as the result of the use of poorly formulated oils, too long of OCI's or other neglect/abuse, if required. Pretty reasonable, no hype.

You want to see a product that gets dragged on here, it's Lucas, and justifiably so.

 

[garageman402]

Engine oils are fully formulated products that don't need "boosting" and adding high quantities of certain additives can have unintended consequences and may actually reduce performance. I'm curious what kind of "analysis" you've seen that allows you to make the determination that these products were "pretty good"?

Regarding the dig by Vlad about HPL being a board sponsor and their engine cleaner not being put through the wringer, it was initially criticized, including by myself, but that changed (and he actually changed the name of the product) because we know what the product is comprised of, because the owner is a member and was quite upfront about it just being a normally formulated PCMO with a vastly increased dose of POE to remove deposits. This is somewhat similar to a previous product that was popular on here called AutoRX, which worked on the same principle.

Dave isn't saying his engine cleaner is "SUPER BOOSTED ENGINE REJUVINATOR 9,000!!!!" and that it INCREAESES YOUR OIL'S TESTERONE SO MUCH ITS BALLS WILL HAVE BALLS ON THEIR BALLS!!!. It's a single purpose product (cleaner) not being pitched in any way to improve your existing lubricant or do anything extraordinary, it's simply an oil with a much higher concentration of esters that can clean up deposits as the result of the use of poorly formulated oils, too long of OCI's or other neglect/abuse, if required. Pretty reasonable, no hype.

You want to see a product that gets dragged on here, it's Lucas, and justifiably so.

There's one in this thread: https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/triax-synergy-0w30-sn.351267/

 

[GR_CoB]

Engine oils are fully formulated products that don't need "boosting" and adding high quantities of certain additives can have unintended consequences and may actually reduce performance. I'm curious what kind of "analysis" you've seen that allows you to make the determination that these products were "pretty good"?

Regarding the dig by Vlad about HPL being a board sponsor and their engine cleaner not being put through the wringer, it was initially criticized, including by myself, but that changed (and he actually changed the name of the product) because we know what the product is comprised of, because the owner is a member and was quite upfront about it just being a normally formulated PCMO with a vastly increased dose of POE to remove deposits. This is somewhat similar to a previous product that was popular on here called AutoRX, which worked on the same principle.

Dave isn't saying his engine cleaner is "SUPER BOOSTED ENGINE REJUVINATOR 9,000!!!!" and that it INCREAESES YOUR OIL'S TESTERONE SO MUCH ITS BALLS WILL HAVE BALLS ON THEIR BALLS!!!. It's a single purpose product (cleaner) not being pitched in any way to improve your existing lubricant or do anything extraordinary, it's simply an oil with a much higher concentration of esters that can clean up deposits as the result of the use of poorly formulated oils, too long of OCI's or other neglect/abuse, if required. Pretty reasonable, no hype.

You want to see a product that gets dragged on here, it's Lucas, and justifiably so.

HPL EC (and HPL in general) is good in my book. Plenty of proof that it works as good as advertised, or maybe even better. I was more referring to some sponsors of the past (Auto-Rx, and I could almost swear there was another one, but can't remember the name now... getting old sucks, and I ain't even 30 yet) and other highly praised additives like MoS2, or the OG Motor Oil Saver, etc.

 

[RooflessVW]

HPL EC (and HPL in general) is good in my book. Plenty of proof that it works as good as advertised, or maybe even better. I was more referring to some sponsors of the past (Auto-Rx, and I could almost swear there was another one, but can't remember the name now... getting old sucks, and I ain't even 30 yet) and other highly praised additives like MoS2, or the OG Motor Oil Saver, etc.

LM Motor Oil Saver is an additive that I'll recommend because it does exactly what LM says it will do in specific use cases.

 

[GR_CoB]

LM Motor Oil Saver is an additive that I'll recommend because it does exactly what LM says it will do in specific use cases.

And that's exactly my point... Nearly every additive has their specific use cases. I strongly believe in that. (Got lots of additive-related threads under my belt, to back that claim up.) There are many additives that do exactly what they claim to do. BUT unless it's one of the BITOG favorites - it will get bashed with endless "WASTE OF MONEY!!!" slogans from people who never tried the additive for it's intended purpose, or used it in the wrong application and experienced no benefits.
- MMO gets bashed daily, because it's meant for neglected engines with shady maintenance history, but people get pissed off and bash it when it doesn't work in well-maintained engines. It has its use, it has it's place, it works as advertised.
- I also saw bashing on LM Motor Oil Saver and MoS2 over the years. Bad product? nope. Pretty great actually. But people got no advertised results because they used it in a motor that didn't need saving, aka a well-maintained-unit.

In light of all this going back to original post now. Triax Max Oil booster may be a good product, if used as intended. But doubt many people tried it yet to give constructive feedback, but those who never tried it usually chime in just to bash it. I must've scared them off too early with my first post... oopsie.

 

[OVERKILL]

There's one in this thread: https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/triax-synergy-0w30-sn.351267/

See my comment in that thread.

 

[OVERKILL]

HPL EC (and HPL in general) is good in my book. Plenty of proof that it works as good as advertised, or maybe even better. I was more referring to some sponsors of the past (Auto-Rx, and I could almost swear there was another one, but can't remember the name now... getting old sucks, and I ain't even 30 yet) and other highly praised additives like MoS2, or the OG Motor Oil Saver, etc.

AutoRX and HPL are the the only two sponsors that I can think of. AutoRX, while a bit controversial at the time, was what it was advertised as being, which is just an ester-based cleaner, it was not aggressive and people got PO's when it didn't work like a solvent, even though that was never the intention.

 

[garageman402]

AutoRX and HPL are the the only two sponsors that I can think of. AutoRX, while a bit controversial at the time, was what it was advertised as being, which is just an ester-based cleaner, it was not aggressive and people got PO's when it didn't work like a solvent, even though that was never the intention.

I always thought Auto-RX was a waste of time, any good detergent oil would do the same job, just keep it changed out. I don't see how any solvent cleaner would survive on here. But I guess that's what this Triax S7 purports to do too, only they add Molybdenum & ZDDP, which in high doses is toxic.

 

[OVERKILL]

I always thought Auto-RX was a waste of time, any good detergent oil would do the same job, just keep it changed out. I don't see how any solvent cleaner would survive on here. But I guess that's what this Triax S7 purports to do too, only they add Molybdenum & ZDDP, which in high doses is toxic.

Engine oils aren't cleaners. Detergents and dispersants are designed to prevent agglomeration of contaminants and keep them in suspension so that they can be flushed out of the engine when the oil is changed. They are NOT designed to clean existing deposits.

AutoRX was an ester-based product which was supposed to gently remove existing deposits like varnish, by dissolving them. Oils with esters in their base oil blends (like M1 0w-40) can also provide some cleaning, but typically, these ester-based products have a higher concentration, so are more effective. That's how the HPL engine cleaner is formulated, it's a regular oil, but with a significant increase in ester content to breakdown and remove existing deposits where the additive package of the lubricant will hold them.

 

[edyvw]

I know Triax has been bashed on here, but some of the analyses I've seen of their other products look pretty good. I just came across this on Amazon. Any thoughts?

All ears about those analyses!