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The last time I had a retread on my car was back in 1982. That tire fell apart on the freeway and did some damage to the car.
Treadwright retread failure <500 miles. Thoughts?
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I have not seen or heard of a retread (we call them remoulds in the UK) coming apart like that in many, many years
London Taxis are often fitted with remoulded tyres and I have never heard of a failure, though speeds are likely to be low.
I think the fact it took a lot of effort to get it to balance up maybindicate hat there was a problem with the tyre from the start.
London Taxis are often fitted with remoulded tyres and I have never heard of a failure, though speeds are likely to be low.
I think the fact it took a lot of effort to get it to balance up maybindicate hat there was a problem with the tyre from the start.
Years ago you could. I'm talking the '70's. I bought 4 for an old chevy I had and they were junk. I came out one day when it got cold out, and 3 out of the 4 leaked and were flat. I only did it because I was broke and needed tires.,,,
I wouldn't put a retread on anything but maybe a wheelbarrow even if they were a gift. Get some decent tires man before you kill yourself or someone else.
I had Green Diamond remolds as my winter tire about 10 years ago. Different from retreads.
Was a time that one could get a set of tires that you had recapped. You then knew the quality of the donor. I only used recaps on my first car a 73 Plymouth Fury 3 after the original Michelins were blowing out on there own after 10 years and around 60k miles. Lot of farm trucks here use recaps. Have had a Firestone and a Good Year have the tread part company on a pickup and the 1 T van. Not a good experience when towing 4 tons of fireworks. Both happened early evening with exits close to get off the road.
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OK, you are buying a tire that is known to be less reliable and cheaper.
Some casings will fail. That is a fact. Most casings will last until they wear out.
You did survive one failing. How was it. Can you handle it again
Tread well will replace bad ones until you get a good casing that will last
did the separating rubber damage the truck
years ago we used them. I never has one separate. I have seen it.
I think you can report to the NHSTA. May not do any good.
Or you can just chalk up the loss.
Rod
OK, you are buying a tire that is known to be less reliable and cheaper.
Some casings will fail. That is a fact. Most casings will last until they wear out.
You did survive one failing. How was it. Can you handle it again
Tread well will replace bad ones until you get a good casing that will last
did the separating rubber damage the truck
years ago we used them. I never has one separate. I have seen it.
I think you can report to the NHSTA. May not do any good.
Or you can just chalk up the loss.
Rod
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92saturnsl2,
What you have is a tread-leaving-casing separation. This is the usual failure mode for bias ply tires, but radials tend towards belt-leaving-belt separations. What you are seeing is the spiral wound nylon cap ply (overlay), with threads of cords unraveling - probably because the cap ply contacted the road surface. I don't see any reason for the separation in the photos, but we can't see the entire surface - particularly close up.
In other words, the failure is not in the retread. It's in the casing. This is one of the issues retreaders have to deal with. Their product is dependent on someone else's quality.
In truck tires, the common practice is for the retreader to return the same casings back to the trucking company - only with a new tread. In passenger and light truck tires, the retreader obtains casing from the scrap pile and has to sort through them to find suitable tires. None of the PC and LT tires were designed for retreading (with the exception of steel body ply LT tires, which are hugely expensive to begin with, and not normally used by consumers.) The risk for the retreader is he can not know how good those casing are.
If I were you, I would contract Treadwright and explain the situation. They should offer a free tire to replace the one you have.
What you have is a tread-leaving-casing separation. This is the usual failure mode for bias ply tires, but radials tend towards belt-leaving-belt separations. What you are seeing is the spiral wound nylon cap ply (overlay), with threads of cords unraveling - probably because the cap ply contacted the road surface. I don't see any reason for the separation in the photos, but we can't see the entire surface - particularly close up.
In other words, the failure is not in the retread. It's in the casing. This is one of the issues retreaders have to deal with. Their product is dependent on someone else's quality.
In truck tires, the common practice is for the retreader to return the same casings back to the trucking company - only with a new tread. In passenger and light truck tires, the retreader obtains casing from the scrap pile and has to sort through them to find suitable tires. None of the PC and LT tires were designed for retreading (with the exception of steel body ply LT tires, which are hugely expensive to begin with, and not normally used by consumers.) The risk for the retreader is he can not know how good those casing are.
If I were you, I would contract Treadwright and explain the situation. They should offer a free tire to replace the one you have.
Originally Posted By: UG_Passat
I had Green Diamond remolds as my winter tire about 10 years ago. Different from retreads.
Treadwrights are remolds not recaps. I have ran a few sets without issue and know many others who have.
I had Green Diamond remolds as my winter tire about 10 years ago. Different from retreads.
Treadwrights are remolds not recaps. I have ran a few sets without issue and know many others who have.
I remember retreads for cars back in the early 1970s. But these days I thought only large trucks had retreads.
JC Whitney even use to sell a tire regrooving tool to make bald tires usable.
JC Whitney even use to sell a tire regrooving tool to make bald tires usable.
Originally Posted By: CapriRacer
92saturnsl2,
What you have is a tread-leaving-casing separation. This is the usual failure mode for bias ply tires, but radials tend towards belt-leaving-belt separations. What you are seeing is the spiral wound nylon cap ply (overlay), with threads of cords unraveling - probably because the cap ply contacted the road surface. I don't see any reason for the separation in the photos, but we can't see the entire surface - particularly close up.
In other words, the failure is not in the retread. It's in the casing. This is one of the issues retreaders have to deal with. Their product is dependent on someone else's quality.
In truck tires, the common practice is for the retreader to return the same casings back to the trucking company - only with a new tread. In passenger and light truck tires, the retreader obtains casing from the scrap pile and has to sort through them to find suitable tires. None of the PC and LT tires were designed for retreading (with the exception of steel body ply LT tires, which are hugely expensive to begin with, and not normally used by consumers.) The risk for the retreader is he can not know how good those casing are.
If I were you, I would contract Treadwright and explain the situation. They should offer a free tire to replace the one you have.
And they will; they might also want the bad one for examination.
That looks like a tire on one of our tractors at work...a brand new Bridestone M726.
92saturnsl2,
What you have is a tread-leaving-casing separation. This is the usual failure mode for bias ply tires, but radials tend towards belt-leaving-belt separations. What you are seeing is the spiral wound nylon cap ply (overlay), with threads of cords unraveling - probably because the cap ply contacted the road surface. I don't see any reason for the separation in the photos, but we can't see the entire surface - particularly close up.
In other words, the failure is not in the retread. It's in the casing. This is one of the issues retreaders have to deal with. Their product is dependent on someone else's quality.
In truck tires, the common practice is for the retreader to return the same casings back to the trucking company - only with a new tread. In passenger and light truck tires, the retreader obtains casing from the scrap pile and has to sort through them to find suitable tires. None of the PC and LT tires were designed for retreading (with the exception of steel body ply LT tires, which are hugely expensive to begin with, and not normally used by consumers.) The risk for the retreader is he can not know how good those casing are.
If I were you, I would contract Treadwright and explain the situation. They should offer a free tire to replace the one you have.
And they will; they might also want the bad one for examination.
That looks like a tire on one of our tractors at work...a brand new Bridestone M726.
Originally Posted By: Donald
JC Whitney even use to sell a tire regrooving tool to make bald tires usable.
That's still quite common here. The little Mexican tire shops do it.
Looks to me that the treadwright tires should be ok for a farm truck or jeep rock crawler. But keep them off the highway.
JC Whitney even use to sell a tire regrooving tool to make bald tires usable.
That's still quite common here. The little Mexican tire shops do it.
Looks to me that the treadwright tires should be ok for a farm truck or jeep rock crawler. But keep them off the highway.
That failure is disconcerting.
Originally Posted By: Chris142
Originally Posted By: Donald
JC Whitney even use to sell a tire regrooving tool to make bald tires usable.
That's still quite common here. The little Mexican tire shops do it.
Looks to me that the treadwright tires should be ok for a farm truck or jeep rock crawler. But keep them off the highway.
Over 400,000 mileson Treadwrights...no problems.
Originally Posted By: Donald
JC Whitney even use to sell a tire regrooving tool to make bald tires usable.
That's still quite common here. The little Mexican tire shops do it.
Looks to me that the treadwright tires should be ok for a farm truck or jeep rock crawler. But keep them off the highway.
Over 400,000 mileson Treadwrights...no problems.
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Good for NJ - should be left to 18 wheelers only for high speed use ...
BTW ... One of those "gators" did $2k in damage to wife's car ...
Summer time in Texas those things are all over the road - I have been showered by the rubber - but pulled over quick to watch the finale unravel (sorry) ...
BTW ... One of those "gators" did $2k in damage to wife's car ...
Summer time in Texas those things are all over the road - I have been showered by the rubber - but pulled over quick to watch the finale unravel (sorry) ...
Originally Posted By: khittner
If new tires aren't within your budget, Magoo, driving that vehicle isn't, either. Park it (at the bottom of a hill, so it doesn't go anywhere on its own) until you come up with the scratch for new tires.
I love how the condecention just DRIPS off every word.
If new tires aren't within your budget, Magoo, driving that vehicle isn't, either. Park it (at the bottom of a hill, so it doesn't go anywhere on its own) until you come up with the scratch for new tires.
I love how the condecention just DRIPS off every word.
Bummer that you had a failure. I've had great luck with their tires, as had my father and several good friends who have run them. I personally have logged about 100,000 miles on their tires, my father about 50,000 and my few good friends probably another 75,000-100,000 miles without any failures. I did have one tire that had a casing leak under the tread, called and had no issues getting a replacement sent which arrived in 3 days at no cost to me. I would run them again without a doubt. Sorry about your luck, I'd get it replaced and run them till they're bald.
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