Not so sure about that... There are countless people falsely convicted; there is tons of incorrect data out there.
Toyota to charge $8.00/mo to start vehicle with fob
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again I somewhat get that service fee, but to have a button on your fob and for Toyota to say "oh and by the way if you want to use that button you'll pay us" yes, it does remotely start your vehicle but were charging you to use it.
I agree with this.
I agree with an app charging a fee for this because a phone is connected to the car through wireless but a key fob that you have to be close enough to use should never have a subscription to use, no matter what.
Some places is zero or below. Yah. I'll let it warm up before I get into a freezer
Not sure legally how this would fly. You buy the car new having remote start, then later, Toyota says you have to pay a monthly fee from now on for it. The only way I could see this pan out was if Toyota gave you a refund for not being able to use it for free. I remember years ago having a Cadillac CTS that had a recall for the heated washer which involved just removing the heater so it wouldn't work any more. GM sent owners an $80 check after doing the recall.
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that would make sense if it was the phone app and not the key fob lol
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Such a none story. This is no different than XM radio, OnStar or Real Time traffic condition linked to the Navigation system, they are all subscription based non-essential services.
Except you know when you buy the car that those are all subscription based non-essential services.
When I lived in NY you needed a remote start if you parked outside. About 75 percent of my friends and family have it.
Most of the dealers put them in if they are not equipped with them from the factory.
Defrost the car from the inside while you shovel yourself out.
Down here in Texas, unless factory equipped, they aren't real popular.
Most of the dealers put them in if they are not equipped with them from the factory.
Defrost the car from the inside while you shovel yourself out.
Down here in Texas, unless factory equipped, they aren't real popular.
True story. Wife took the wrangler to work. I didn't know this. I opened the garage door (via app) and remote started the Wrangler...
... in th sparking lot at the school my wife teaches at. LOL
Joke is on Toyota I’ll just make my kids go out into the cold to start the car...
Poor parenting - 1, Toyota - 0
Poor parenting - 1, Toyota - 0
Many a flooded carburetor in my youth
When we got our Jeep, I played with the phone remote start app a few times. (It was good for a year). But I never actually needed it, or ever will. Even the remote start on the FOB I almost never use. Perhaps if I lived in a more temperate climate I would in the Winter.
I'm glad our Toyota has a key. Just less crap to fail.
I'm glad our Toyota has a key. Just less crap to fail.
Must be colder in NY than NH. Never had remote start, never felt like I needed it. If it's too cold to walk outside for 30 seconds then one is underdressed for a drive to work--if anything happens (car breakdown, car accident) then one is going to "freeze to death" while waiting for a tow, no?
I'm sure remote start is nice and all, but to say it is "needed" strikes me as over the top.
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Don't get a Tesla then.
The subscription is for app functionality on a smart phone. This is called "remote connect". With this functionality you can start the vehicle and operate several other vehicle functions remotely from a smart phone app, and it also allows the use of Alexa for these remote functions. If you read Toyota's PDF carefully, what it says about the key fob is that if your vehicle is equipped with remote start, it will have this functionality on the key fob, and if it is equipped with remote start it is also equipped with remote connect. This is what it says in the fine print... "Remote Connect equipped vehicles built before 11/12/18 were required to have an active Remote Connect trial or paid subscription for the key fob to perform remote start functionality. The logic has been enhanced to no longer require an active Remote Connect subscription for the key fob to perform remote start functionality." https://www.toyota.com/content/connectedservices/marketing/PDF/Remote_Connect_CFA.pdf
The key fob is simply a short range RF remote control.
Operating from an app in a smart phone requires cell phone data service to the vehicle. A portion of the subscription fee is going to a cell phone company (currently AT&T) to activate and maintain the 4G-LTE cell phone data service that is required for the system to operate. Additionally, Remote Connect offers other services similar to On-Star (which also requires cell phone data service). Since there is a security aspect to this service, some insurance companies offer a discount on their comprehensive rate if this type of service is employed, so the subscription fee can be partially offset for some people.
Operating from an app in a smart phone requires cell phone data service to the vehicle. A portion of the subscription fee is going to a cell phone company (currently AT&T) to activate and maintain the 4G-LTE cell phone data service that is required for the system to operate. Additionally, Remote Connect offers other services similar to On-Star (which also requires cell phone data service). Since there is a security aspect to this service, some insurance companies offer a discount on their comprehensive rate if this type of service is employed, so the subscription fee can be partially offset for some people.
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