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In response to the OP, the OEM Toyota Denso filters are one of my preferred choices for my Sienna. My other preferred choice is are the Napa Gold. I buy whichever is more convenient - the Denso if I am at the dealer for any other reason, or the Napa Gold if I'm not by the dealer, since the Napa store is close to home.

Currently running Mopar 4105409AC, though. Got these from VW dealer (they stocked for the Routan), using "free" money that was expiring and only good at a VW dealer. Was an appeasement offering from VW in the early days after the diesel scandal broke. As we are seriously considering the buyback, it didn't make sense to get stuff to use on the VW, so I got stuff for the Toyota instead. Took some homework to figure out what filter would work.

I've also used Purolator, Quaker State and Bosch on this vehicle.

No apparent issues with any of the filters I've used.
 
Originally Posted By: PimTac
This is not only Toyota but most of the Japanese manufacturers as most of them use Denso filters for their OEM globally in many markets.

Toyota, Mitsu and Yamaha seem to be the main Denso customers for filtration, I have yet to see a Denso-badged oil filter from Honda/Nissan/Subaru's aftermarket service channels.

I've used Fram, Puro, Champ, Mahle and Wix on all the family cars. Except for some occasional piston or valve noises, they've all worked fine. As a matter of fact, I have an FL-910S on my parent's van. There's lots of Toyota and Lexus products probably rolling around with a jobber or quick lube filter - not my first choice but it gets the job done.

If running a "low-efficiency" filter was so bad, we would have seen lots of Toyotas with wiped out bearings from dirt contamination or burning oil from worn rings and scuffed cylinders(besides the rod knock that happens with Toyo engines during low oil situations).
 
Originally Posted By: Speak2Mountain
Who use OEM Toyota-Denso Thailand filters, are you happy?
My Lexus uses 04152-YZZA3 and there's not alot of good alternatives, at least of what I could find.


I didn't like the look & specs of the OE oil filter for my RX350. It would probably do at $7 but I wanted something better and found that TRD
makes a filter that replaces it at $20 and if you saw the difference in construction and materials you'd understand why it cost more. Oil & filter are two things not to fool around with, they keep your engine healthy.
 
Originally Posted By: Pelican
I didn't like the look & specs of the OE oil filter for my RX350. It would probably do at $7 but I wanted something better and found that TRD makes a filter that replaces it at $20 and if you saw the difference in construction and materials you'd understand why it cost more. Oil & filter are two things not to fool around with, they keep your engine healthy.

Where did you find specs on OEM Toyota filters?
 
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Where did you find specs on OEM Toyota filters?

Denso Web site says paper. TRD is a full synthetic. There can't be more contrast in specs than that.
 
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Where did you find specs on OEM Toyota filters?

Denso Web site says paper. TRD is a full synthetic. There can't be more contrast in specs than that.

Sure.
 
About 15 years ago when I was in the Supra scene, people made a bit of a ruckus about this filter design. I don't think they make it like this anymore. It looked really high tech.
It was the Toyota PN 90915-20004.
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Also check this thread:

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=317649

https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/very-very-belated-90915-20004-oil-filter-cut-open.287715/

Apparently the ones with this part number that were made in Japan had this unique design; they are unobtainum now since they were discontinued a long time ago. The ones made in Thailand, which you might find today, have an ordinary filter design.
 
Originally Posted By: L_Sludger
About 15 years ago when I was in the Supra scene, people made a bit of a ruckus about this filter design. I don't think they make it like this anymore. It looked really high tech.
It was the Toyota PN 90915-20004.

Apparently the ones with this part number that were made in Japan had this unique design; they are unobtainum now since they were discontinued a long time ago. The ones made in Thailand, which you might find today, have an ordinary filter design.

Back when I was younger (and apparently stupider), for a short while I went out of my way to pay a lot for those filters from Carson Toyota. I figured that since they came as the first filter on my Sienna they were somehow "better". But since there is no filtration data available for either the Thai paper version nor that funky foam one no one really knows. The most you can say about them is that they are unique but that's it.

I don't think they were discontinued a long time ago, for all anyone knows they might still be made in Japan. It's just that they had to be gray market imported and that was a lot of work for a dealer to do.
 
Originally Posted By: kschachn

I don't think they were discontinued a long time ago, for all anyone knows they might still be made in Japan. It's just that they had to be gray market imported and that was a lot of work for a dealer to do.

Supposedly, Toyota still brings them to the US as a service part for the Lexus LFA, it uses two of them, but a little Googling shows it's under a different part number.

Some dealers will stock the -20004 but is it worth it?
 
I don't know if it was only going back to TGMO 0W-20 SN from Mobil 1 0W-40 SN (old formula) or switching from the Thai Toyota/Denso OEM oil filter to the Mobil 1 oil filter (old version) has also helped, but my engine has been running smoother and my fuel economy has been improving everyday.

I don't think I am ever going back to that made-in-Thailand rock catcher Toyota/Denso 90915-YZZF2 again, which I used for many, many years. Perhaps I'll upgrade to the BITOG darling Fram Ultra next time. I wasn't that worried about oil filters until recently but I've learned a lot. This site is really useful for getting information on motor oil and oil filter, as so many people post their experiences.

I really think that Toyota's main concern is to make the dealer oil changes as low-cost as possible so that they can attract customers to the dealers, and they don't care about the quality of the oil filters.

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That's just wonderful.

But I just don't know how I dodged the bullet all these years on my cars with those rock catcher filters. Because heck, not only do I use rock catchers in my Toyotas I apparently use them for my Honda. And the BMW if you believe the scuttle about Hengst. Maybe I just like scuttle.
 
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
... I don't think I am ever going back to that made-in-Thailand rock catcher Toyota/Denso 90915-YZZF2 again, which I used for many, many years. ...
How is it possible your engine lasted so long despite being forced to use such horrible filters for "many, many years"?
 
Originally Posted By: CR94
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
... I don't think I am ever going back to that made-in-Thailand rock catcher Toyota/Denso 90915-YZZF2 again, which I used for many, many years. ...

How is it possible your engine lasted so long despite being forced to use such horrible filters for "many, many years"?

Long?? My engine hasn't even been broken in yet.
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Originally Posted By: Gokhan

Long?? My engine hasn't even been broken in yet.
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FWIW, I was just shy of 300K on a 1UZ-FE Lexus V8. That car pretty much got whatever filter happened to be installed except for Chinese jobber ones.
 
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
Originally Posted By: CR94
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
... I don't think I am ever going back to that made-in-Thailand rock catcher Toyota/Denso 90915-YZZF2 again, which I used for many, many years. ...

How is it possible your engine lasted so long despite being forced to use such horrible filters for "many, many years"?

Long?? My engine hasn't even been broken in yet.
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I bought a new 1985 Toyota Camry hatchback, and had it about 12 years. Just wanted something else although I liked the Camry a lot. I used only Toyota dealer filters changed every 3k miles religiously. Rarely see a 1985 Toyota anymore, even though around here they don't rust out. Usually a failed smog test down the line sends them to the junkyard in the sky. I am surprised you worry about oil and filters on a 32 year old Toyota Corolla but to each his own way. If yours fails smog, you can still get $1000 for it by applying to have it junked. I did that to a car, they smash them down and send the shells to China to make new steel.
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People seem to get equal long life running Jiffy lube oil and filters as the people that use boutique syn oils and filters , strange isn't it.
 
Originally Posted By: goodtimes
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
Originally Posted By: CR94
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
... I don't think I am ever going back to that made-in-Thailand rock catcher Toyota/Denso 90915-YZZF2 again, which I used for many, many years. ...

How is it possible your engine lasted so long despite being forced to use such horrible filters for "many, many years"?

Long?? My engine hasn't even been broken in yet.
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I bought a new 1985 Toyota Camry hatchback, and had it about 12 years. Just wanted something else although I liked the Camry a lot. I used only Toyota dealer filters changed every 3k miles religiously. Rarely see a 1985 Toyota anymore, even though around here they don't rust out. Usually a failed smog test down the line sends them to the junkyard in the sky. I am surprised you worry about oil and filters on a 32 year old Toyota Corolla but to each his own way. If yours fails smog, you can still get $1000 for it by applying to have it junked. I did that to a car, they smash them down and send the shells to China to make new steel.
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Yes, the biggest problem with these cars, especially the carburetor versions, are the overcomplicated emission systems. Those have the only parts that fail and people (including mechanics) don't know how to diagnose and repair them. In my case, I know all about the fuel and emission systems in my engine. I even rebuilt the carburetor myself. I replace or repair any failing emissions parts. Therefore, it has no chance of ever failing the California emissions test.
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Are you going to show a picture of your jewel? Carburetor is worse, my 85 Camry had fuel injection. When the smog fail demon strikes, usually the cost to fix is too much. Can be many things, cat, valves, air leaks, smog devices, good luck. That's why I can't remember when I saw an 85 Toyota on the road here.
 
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