Found an updated brake job best practices guide in the Toyota TIS portal. Thought this may be of interest.
SD-20 is what I use. It's a foaming rinseless degreaser.I first heard the washing rotors with soapy water about 10 or so years ago from one of our techs. He heard it at Ford school and said once he switched to that method he had a lot less issues with noise. I have tried to do it since. It gets hard with the big rotors though.
Glycol based lithium soap thickened grease, I've never seen them call for anything else with the exception of ATE calipers (dry) and Bosch/Chassis Brake/Hitachi calipers (PTFE Silicone).Lithium soap grease for the pins? Thought that was a spot for silicone?
By them you mean Toyota? If so, ok,... I was just under the impression that slide pins usually got silicone grease...Glycol based lithium soap thickened grease, I've never seen them call for anything else with the exception of ATE calipers (dry) and Bosch/Chassis Brake/Hitachi calipers (PTFE Silicone).
By them you mean Toyota? If so, ok,... I was just under the impression that slide pins usually got silicone grease...
I fondly remember Lucas. They had some groovy brakes. Hopefully ZF bring TRW in order.Yes, by them I was referring to Toyota, although they are far from alone in this regard.
As one huge example; as far back as I've ever been able to find Lucas Girling spec'd "vegetable" (glycol) based "rubber grease" for their floating caliper guide pins, and their successor TRW continues to do so with PFG110.
I noticed that, after reviewing it several times.It say‘s don’t apply shim grease to the ears, slide, etc.
Ooops, yeap, I read it too quicklyIt say‘s don’t apply shim grease to the ears, slide, etc.
Interesting how different OEMs have opposite recommendations. I'd think it could actually vary by vehicle model not across-the-board guidelines since many brake components (calipers, etc) are 3rd-party designed and sourced, I thought.
Toyota says no lube on the pad ears/caliper bracket slide locations while Nissan says to use "bentonite noise dampening brake grease". Nissan also says to use "rubber grease" on the slide pins.
The calipers on a co-worker's late-model BMW look identical to the ones on my wife's Fusion. That's the casting design as well as the external spring / clip. Watching a video of a BMW brake change, it's got the same plastic plugs, internal hex slide pins, etc...Yes, it's easy to find instances of the exact same caliper being used on vehicles from different automakers
The calipers on a co-worker's late-model BMW look identical to the ones on my wife's Fusion. That's the casting design as well as the external spring / clip. Watching a video of a BMW brake change, it's got the same plastic plugs, internal hex slide pins, etc...
ate uses the 7mm hex sliders or traditional ones. you’ll usually find the anti-rattle spring on the hex type calipersInteresting.... Looking at the external retention spring for ATE calipers, BMW uses what appear to be very similar calipers on the REARs while Ford uses them on the FRONTs (hehe, better braking performance from a BMW - duh ! ).