Toyota BEV Announcement.

Interesting to see Toyota jump on board.

I read that Musk wants to develop batteries that don't require rare Earth metals. ??
 
PimTac said:
Seems like big news to me. A 1000km range (621 miles) is impressive.
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The bigger news IMO is that the Toyota/Panasonic partnership has apparently achieved a breakthrough in the development of solid state batteries...
"Most notably, Toyota said that it has discovered a technological breakthrough that overcomes the challenge of battery durability in its all-solid-state batteries, and as such, the company is reviewing its introduction to conventional Hybrid EVs and accelerating its development as a battery for BEVs.”
"the company is also developing a method for mass producing all-solid-state batteries for battery electric vehicles, and aims to commercialize this in 2027 to 2028."
Since they have been throwing a huge amount of money and engineering talent at this for the last 10-15 years, this should hardly come as a surprise to anyone who knows how Toyota does things. This is also the major reason for why Toyota has been slow-walking the production of BEVs.
 
wag123 said:
The bigger news IMO is that the Toyota/Panasonic partnership has apparently achieved a breakthrough in the development of solid state batteries...
"Most notably, Toyota said that it has discovered a technological breakthrough that overcomes the challenge of battery durability in its all-solid-state batteries, and as such, the company is reviewing its introduction to conventional Hybrid EVs and accelerating its development as a battery for BEVs.”
"the company is also developing a method for mass producing all-solid-state batteries for battery electric vehicles, and aims to commercialize this in 2027 to 2028."
Since they have been throwing a huge amount of money and engineering talent at this for the last 10-15 years, this should hardly come as a surprise to anyone who knows how Toyota does things. This is also the major reason for why Toyota has been slow-walking the production of BEVs.
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That would be nice to see. Something has got to be done to get battery weight down and use less materials. I hope they're right.

JohnnyJohnson said:
More info on 2nd generation hydrogen cars would have been a whole lot more exciting!
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They better figure out a way to put in a heck of a lot of fueling stations then. The closest to me is 917 miles. The next is more than 1,600 miles. I couldn't drive to the station on a full tank. As much as I always liked the hydrogen approach I don't see that improving enough for my use by the time I buy my next 3 vehicles so BEV it is if I don't buy another ICE vehicle.
 
It's exciting for me that Toyota has finally come to their senses and figured out that Hydrogen is not only not going anywhere, but is a more active greenhouse gas than CO2 ever was, leaks more easily, and the production of which mostly benefits the oil/gas companies.

If you think electrical charging is slow to implement, Hydrogen distribution would take MUCH longer.
 
wag123 said:
Since they have been throwing a huge amount of money and engineering talent at this for the last 10-15 years, this should hardly come as a surprise to anyone who knows how Toyota does things. This is also the major reason for why Toyota has been slow-walking the production of BEVs.
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Yep. That’s how they work. It’s not being first that counts.
 
Whole bunch of nothing in that.

"developing" "targeting" "aiming"

Quoting a range without stating the vehicle size, weight, pack size, how many wheels driven is nothing more than guesswork.



Ox : Everything is different, but the same... things are more moderner than before... bigger, and yet smaller... it's computers... San Dimas High School football rules.
 
JohnnyJohnson said:
More info on 2nd generation hydrogen cars would have been a whole lot more exciting!
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JohnnyG said:
It's exciting for me that Toyota has finally come to their senses and figured out that Hydrogen is not only not going anywhere, but is a more active greenhouse gas than CO2 ever was, leaks more easily, and the production of which mostly benefits the oil/gas companies.

If you think electrical charging is slow to implement, Hydrogen distribution would take MUCH longer.
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Toyota is in the business of mobility. While hydrogen might not work yet for automobiles they are also working on other solutions for hydrogen. Toyota does a lot more than just building cars.
 
JohnnyG said:
It's exciting for me that Toyota has finally come to their senses and figured out that Hydrogen is not only not going anywhere, but is a more active greenhouse gas than CO2 ever was, leaks more easily, and the production of which mostly benefits the oil/gas companies.

If you think electrical charging is slow to implement, Hydrogen distribution would take MUCH longer.
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Yes, hydrogen has issues and its detractors, but it's been shown to be quite useful and practical in some situations. Our largest transit fleet has been using hydrogen and other "alternatively-fueled" buses for years, and they are doing quite well both for the company and the passengers. They are clean, quiet, and efficient, and every time I'm behind one at a traffic light I smile because of the lack of Diesel fumes.

https://www.actransit.org/zeb
 
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