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So now the NHTSA is in on the conspiracy against GM? WOW! I didn't realize it was as widespread as a few of you think.
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Thunder on the Tundra: Toyota Trucks Ahead in 2007 Recalls

If you've merely done a moderate amount of Internet surfing or cracked
open a newspaper lately - just about any newspaper - you've undoubtedly
seen the news that Toyota has once again passed Ford in worldwide auto
sales and may pass GM sometime this year.

But what you may not have seen is that Toyota has already passed both
Ford
and GM in a different category - automotive recalls.

Although we've barely passed mid-February, Toyota has already recalled
533,417 vehicles this year (2007) in a mix that, according to
www.AutoRecalls.us,
includes Tundras AND Sequoias BUT doesn't include Camrys'. That puts Toyota on track to
recall
more than the over 1.76 million autos they recalled in the U.S. and
Japan
in 2006, and the 2.2 million they recalled in 2005 when they recalled
more
cars than they built.

What's more, the current recall related to the Turdra trucks and Sequioa

SUVs is similar to the same defect in 800,000 of the same vehicles in
2005.
Maybe somebody at Toyota isn't paying attention?

Hopefully the American consumers are. Recall numbers by domestic
companies
(GM and Ford) so far this year are as follows: Ford, 128,163; Chevrolet,

4,829; and Pontiac, 1,602. Chrysler - a German company masquerading as

an American company with plans to start importing cars from China in
2008
- has recalled 77,432 vehicles so far in 2007.

To be sure, high recall numbers are not good. Auto companies would much
rather prefer high sales numbers instead. As I've already mentioned, theAs I've already mentioned, the

media is abuzz that GM may lose its crown this year to Toyota in
worldwide
auto sales. But for that to ever happen in the U.S. sales category, it's

going to take several more years since GM has a U.S. market share of
24.3%
compared to 15.4% for Toyota. Even Ford, despite their recent troubles,
has a higher domestic market share than Toyota at 17.5%.

But if GM loses their worldwide crown this year, it may actually turn
out
to be a blessing in disguise. Here's why:

First, GM spent 17% less per vehicle this January compared to last
January, which means they are more profitable on a per-unit basis. In
fact, GM expects to report a profit for the most recent quarter.

Second, it may be good for GM to step aside temporarily, for now, and
let
Toyota take all the ammunition that is always aimed at the top dog of
the
industry so there is less pressure and fewer distractions. And when GM
combines their more-solid profitability and their improved quality
together, their public perception will also improve.

Then they can use these admirable qualities to prepare to surge back on
top at the precise time Toyota is in the top slot with their recall
surge
in the news. Toyota's timing at being number one worldwide would create
further skepticism about whether they really deserve their reputation
for
untarnished quality.

According to Business Week's January 22, 2007 issue, Toyota has recalled

9.3 million vehicles in the last three years, which is nearly four times

the number of recalls in the three year period prior to 2004.

Other recent news that won't sit well with a Camry-conscious public is
the
class-action lawsuit recently settled by Toyota regarding ruinous oil
sludge buildup
covering 3.5 million Toyota and Lexus (yes, Lexus) vehicles.

Optimistic statements by Toyota executives aren't going to cut it for
long
- particularly when they don't match well with reality. Denial in the
Camry-company camp seems to be setting in. Toyota's North American
president Jim Press recently disputed the suggestion that his company no

longer enjoys a large lead in reliability over the American competition.

Speculating on the thoughts of American car company well-wishers while
speaking at the recent Chicago Auto Show,
Press said "I think there's some hope that the gap in quality is
closing,
but it really isn't."
Oh, really? That's a pretty strong comment considering Toyota recalled
1.27 million vehicles in one swoop in 2005, recording the biggest-ever
recall in history for a Japanese car company.

But, recalls notwithstanding, the evidence that the quality gap is
closing
is pretty indisputable, and the evidence has been piling up for more
than
just the last couple of years. With the following facts, you can make
your
argument for American car quality fully bulletproof - even among your
most
ardent foreign car-defending friends.

* A February 10, 2003 Business Week told of how undeniable it was that
GM
cars are better built than they used to be. The article cited an
improved
J.D. Power quality ranking and a Consumer Reports recommendation for 13
of
GM's vehicles (equal to 41% of their sales volume) compared to just five

recommended GM vehicles for the previous year. The Chevy Impala beat the

Camry in a quality survey, and Buick beat BMW.

* Business Week also reported September 23, 2003 that GM boosted its
productivity 23% in six years while Toyota's productivity remained flat,

and that GM's most-productive factories now beat Toyota's
most-productive
factories.

* A 2004 Consumer Reports ranking selected the Buick Regal as the most
reliable among family sedans, beating the Toyota Camry, Honda Accord and

Nissan Maxima. They also gave recommended ratings for four Ford models,
including the Ford Focus.

* J.D. Power and Associates awarded Cadillac's Lansing Grand River
assembly center its highest honor - the Gold Plant Quality Award - in
2004.

* An August 4, 2004 Wall Street Journal article said Toyota's lead in
quality and reliability has narrowed in some segments and disappeared in

others. Quality problems were reportedly "mushrooming."

* The Toyota Camry hasn't been awarded the best in its segment since the

year 2000, but many Americans continue to regard it as the number one
model in terms of quality. Toyota's Kentucky Camry plant was awarded
with
high initial quality rankings by J.D. Power from the late 1980s through
the 1990s, but it plummeted to number 26 in 2002, improving to only
number
14 in 2004, while two GM factories and one Ford factory took the top
three
spots that year.

* In a J.D. Power Initial Quality Survey of new 2004 cars, Chevy placed
second behind Honda and Toyota sank to number three.

* As far back as at least 2003, Business Week has reported that American

consumers regard certain foreign cars as better built than American
cars,
even when facts prove otherwise.

* Fast-forwarding to 2006, J.D. Power shows Mercury, Buick and Cadillac
beat Toyota in a list of dependable cars. Two Buicks and a Mercury took
the top three midsize car awards; Mercury, Ford and Buick took the top
three large car awards; Ford took the midsize van award and the midsize
truck award; and GMC and Cadillac took the large MAV (multi-purpose
activity vehicle) and large premium MAV awards, respectively.

* In an article about trust issues, Business Week's December 11, 2006
issue stated "GM's quality nearly equals Toyota's." Perceived quality
among the American public is another story, however. The difference
between the actual quality of American cars and the perceived quality of

American cars is the "perception gap."

* In the same article, J.D. Power's director for retail research said
"Actual quality is so close." discussing the quality rankings of GMC,
Chevrolet and Cadillac placing them on par with both Honda and Toyota.

* And most recently, of course, the Ford Fusion and Mercury Milan beat
the
Honda Accord and Toyota Camry according to Consumer Reports.
What's needed among automotive senior executives, and much of the media
as
well, is a return to intellectual honesty. Everyone tends to have their
favorites and biases (mine are pretty obvious) but I pride myself in
sticking with the facts to back up my comments.

When Toyotas North American president says that the quality gap isn't
really closing, he's not being intellectually honest.
Some editorial writers aren't either. When Douglas Brinkley trumpeted
Indiana's success in a Wall Street Journal article last year for
attracting a Honda plant to their state - even though it took $140
million
in tax credits and incentives - he wasn't what you would call
"intellectually honest." In an apparent attempt to convince the reader
that Honda doesn't send any automobiles to the U.S. from outside the
country, he said the
following: "Turning farm fields into factories, that's what Henry Ford
used to do. Today, in the heartland, it's being done by Honda - a
company
that doesn't manufacture imports but builds American-made cars."

Such statements lead the reader to think that some Japanese companies
make
all of their cars in the USA. Hardly. In fact, according to a January 8,

2007 Wall Street Journal article, the NAP ratio - a ratio that compares
how many cars are built in North America vs. the number of cars imported
-
is slipping for Toyota. And according to Toyota internal documentation,
the ratio is going to worsen next year.

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We can up date and correct all this when I get back ,but until then Mokanic heres your key #
TOYOTA RECALLS WORLDWIDE FROM 1JAN2003 - 18JAN2007 ( 3YEARS 18 DAYS ) MORE THAN 9.83 MILLION




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Nice List g20ooh

At least you can provide info which puts things in perspective.
 
Not all recalls are a bad thing. I bought a Ford Explorer and I had 55,000 miles on it when the Firestone tire problem came up.
I got a letter from Ford telling me to take it to my dealer and get new tires.
FORD put on 5 new tires I drove on them for more than a year then they told me that they wanted to replace my new Firestone tires.
Ford paid for 5 new Michelin LTX tires. At this rate I never will need to buy tires just let FORD pay for them.
 
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Not all recalls are a bad thing. I bought a Ford Explorer and I had 55,000 miles on it when the Firestone tire problem came up.
I got a letter from Ford telling me to take it to my dealer and get new tires.
FORD put on 5 new tires I drove on them for more than a year then they told me that they wanted to replace my new Firestone tires.
Ford paid for 5 new Michelin LTX tires. At this rate I never will need to buy tires just let FORD pay for them.




Well it was bad for Ford...since the better explosion proof Goodyears were $.25 more each...but Ford wanted to save a buck on each new Exploder.
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Not all recalls are a bad thing. I bought a Ford Explorer and I had 55,000 miles on it when the Firestone tire problem came up.
I got a letter from Ford telling me to take it to my dealer and get new tires.
FORD put on 5 new tires I drove on them for more than a year then they told me that they wanted to replace my new Firestone tires.
Ford paid for 5 new Michelin LTX tires. At this rate I never will need to buy tires just let FORD pay for them.




Well it was bad for Ford...since the better explosion proof Goodyears were $.25 more each...but Ford wanted to save a buck on each new Exploder.
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Every Goodyear tire I bought went bad. Last ones I put on a Bronco and One was shaped like a football.
When I went back to Goodyear they told me that happens every time that their tires where put on a FORD. That was
12 years ago I have not bought a GY tire since.
 
I've said this before and I'll say it again. Two of my closest freinds own automotive repair shops, one for all makes and one for imports (he'll tell you they do break!). However, both are always so busy they barely know what the internet is and have no extra time in their lives. Mokanic has all day long to post over and over on the net. Are you really a wrench? Somehow, I doubt it. If you just love Toyotas and Kubotas so much, admit it. I wouldnt think bad of you for liking brands that treat you well, however, faking being a wrench to make your point seem "real" is a whole different story.
 
In a mixed motorpool there are many different sedans that people take on trips or just keep for a few weeks to run around town in. The Camry's and Accords are always taken first. Sometimes they park the Camry's and Accords around back to get people to take the Impala's and other domestics. I have no idea if they are correct in picking those models that they think are less likely to leave them stranded in a strange place or not. Don't shoot the messenger. I've seen people take a dinged up Camry or Accord over a brand new shiny domestic. There are a number of Prius sedans that never stay parked. Everyone wants to try one out. Three have gone over 50k miles in a year. It's the one car in the fleet that no one has broken. The mechanics have no idea what they will do if they have to repair one, they just change the oil and rotate the tires. I think the 60k service gets them sent to a dealer for all the goofy stuff that no one can figure out. Domestics are not bad cars, but better, we can't tell. We only deal with cars on a day-to-day basis and don't read JD Power's reports.
 
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I've said this before and I'll say it again. Two of my closest freinds own automotive repair shops, one for all makes and one for imports (he'll tell you they do break!). However, both are always so busy they barely know what the internet is and have no extra time in their lives. Mokanic has all day long to post over and over on the net. Are you really a wrench? Somehow, I doubt it. If you just love Toyotas and Kubotas so much, admit it. I wouldnt think bad of you for liking brands that treat you well, however, faking being a wrench to make your point seem "real" is a whole different story.




Sir,you are really showing your ignorance. The only thing you are even close to being accurate at is that I don't have to wrench all day long. I own the shop. Who cares what you doubt? You say you have friends that own shops. That makes you an expert??I don't have to fake it and whether you think I am a tech or not is laughable. My shop is successful,I don't need any a-holes money and it just wadds your panties that I speak my mind. Maybe if you would pay the price you could do the same instead of being envious of others. I enjoy my free time and have worked hard to get it. Many shops are busy but about 1/2 of them are profitable. That's why so few people are going into this line of work anymore. My shop is state-of-the-art and profitable. Imports most certainly do break and I have never posted that they didn't. Some imports such as BMW and Mitsubishi have as high or higher non-scheduled repair problems than domestics do. Toyota and Honda have repeatedly given more reliable service than any domestics that I work on and customer loyalty to these cars proves it. Do I care if you accept that? Not in the least.
Try in the future not to resent people who have worked hard and had a good measure of success. Get off you whiney can and hustle and maybe someday you can relax a little and enjoy life. That's what I am doing and guys like you with the poochy-lip won't hinder me from doing just that. Now,go ask your friends that run shops how you should respond. Have a great weekend!
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c502cid ,
Would be possible for you to either post or PM the 2006 sales totals for the vehicles listed in this threads original article ? Could you also include the figures for the toyota tundra ? I do not have easy access to the data/data book . Thanks either way .
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Lets take a critical behind the numbers of this post .
When we are done I believe it will become clear that intentional or not , this is a SMEAR PIECE to give toyota a boost at the expense of Dodge , GM ,Land Rover , Hyundia , AND Honda ( hybrids ).
My comments are directed to whom ever authored whatever " study " that Mokanic refers to - not Mokanic himself .
However , I have spent a couple of hours at the NHTSA web site searching and have found no such study .
Perhaps Mokanic can provide information to verify or correct his original post .
Perhaps there is another explanation ? .
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One possibility is that the 20 FEB 2007 article or online hit piece , take your pick - by forbes and written by Ken Lienert is the source .
This has been posted here http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...ge=1#Post833260 by Larry the Cable Guy .
This is the thread we have concerning what would objectively appear to be the front running product and sales success story for 2007 in this segment and the market in general - the new GM pickups and this post appears to be where Mokanic's list comes from .
Perhaps Mokanic confused the source - you know how it is - the web pages look sooo similiar .
The intended , obvious first benefactor here is the one that barely got to first base in its first month out - the 2007 tundra .
We can cover that story some other time as we get a clearer picture .

Well , in any case , the second of the two vehicles that benefit from this highly misleading " information " in this/both article(s) are the toyota hybrids as a group .
These vehicles need help - even more than EkPolks enthusiasm can provide !
They now have at least 4 months of cooling sales and are about to lose all or 1/2 of their current greatly reduced tax incentive COMPLETELY on 31 MARCH 2007 .

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So how is this piece or list so misleading ?

First , lets look at the recall numbers for the 2006 toyota tundra .
There are 2 listed at the NHTSA/ODI SITE .
The first one concerns aftermarket lighting kits and in no way is toyotas responsibility .
The second one is and is an important recall .
From the ODI ;



Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
TOYOTA / SEQUOIA 2004-2007

TOYOTA / TUNDRA 2004-2006

Recall Number: 07V013000
Summary:
ON CERTAIN TRUCKS AND MINI VANS, DUE TO POSSIBLE IMPROPER FINISHING OF THE FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER BALL JOINT, SOME BALL JOINTS MAY EXPERIENCE AN INCIDENTAL DETERIORATION OF THE INTERNAL LUBRICATION. THIS MAY CAUSE THE BALL JOINT TO WEAR AND LOOSEN PREMATURELY, WHICH COULD RESULT IN INCREASED STEERING EFFORT, REDUCED VEHICLE SELF-CENTERING, AND NOISE IN THE FRONT SUSPENSION.
Consequence:
IN EXTREME CASES, IF THE VEHICLE IS CONTINUOUSLY OPERATED IN THIS CONDITION, THE LOWER BALL JOINT MAY SEPARATE FROM THE KNUCKLE AND COULD CAUSE A LOSS OF VEHICLE CONTROL.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER BALL JOINTS. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING MID-FEBRUARY 2007. OWNERS MAY CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331.
Notes:
TOYOTA RECALL NO. 70B. CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.


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This affects virtually all 2006 tundra production ( AND ALOT MORE ) so we can say that the more important number for the consumer when using recall information to evaluate 2006 quality or a future purchase , ie the recall rate is 100% on the 2006 tundra .


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Now , lets look at one of the seven recalls concerning the 2006 Dodge Ram line .
I'm going to deliberately give the most benign one first and alone so you can see just how bad these lists and articles mislead .The total when I'm done will be much higher .


Again , from the ODI ;
Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
DODGE / RAM 3500 2006-2007

Recall Number: 06V380000
Summary:
CERTAIN TRUCKS FAIL TO CONFORM TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF FEDERAL MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARD NO. 111, "REAR VIEW MIRRORS". THE RIGHT OUTSIDE REAR VIEW MIRROR GLASS HAS A CURVED (CONVEX) MIRROR GLASS INSTALLED INSTEAD OF FLAT GLASS. CURVED GLASS CREATES A WIDER VIEW, BUT DISPLAYS IMAGES FURTHER AWAY THAN THEY ACTUALLY ARE.
Consequence:
DRIVERS OF LARGE VEHICLES MAY HAVE DIFFICULTY JUDGING DISTANCE RELATIONSHIPS, WHICH COULD CAUSE A CRASH WITHOUT PRIOR WARNING.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE RIGHT OUTSIDE CONVEX MIRROR GLASS WITH A FLAT MIRROR GLASS FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN ON OR BEFORE OCTOBER 9, 2006. OWNERS MAY CONTACT DAIMLERCHRYSLER AT 1-800-853-1403.
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DAIMLERCHRYSLER RECALL NO. F46. CUSTOMERS CAN ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION’S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.

Total ( Total # vehicles affected all years all models 309 . Actual units affected 309 RAM 3500S ONLY )


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Lets also look at the article " MOST RECALLED VEHICLES OF 2006 " AND how they treat these two vehicles .
The tundra is simple - no mention .


Here is the info on the nasty old DODGE - the implied recall KING ( NOT )

From our own thread listed above ;



Re: Silverado wins new pickup shootout in C&D [Re: g20ooh]
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The most-recalled automobiles of 2006 - Forbes.com - MSNBC.com



Dodge Ram Pickup

Base Price: $22,170
Number Of 2006-Model Recalls: 7

Recalls concerned:

--Faulty anti-lock brake electronic control units
--Defective front suspensions
--Airbags that could deploy with excessive force
--Transfer cases on four-wheel drive models that may inadvertently shift to neutral and cause parked vehicles to roll away
--Seatbelts that may not be able to secure certain child seats
--Missing pieces of exterior lighting
-- Defective rearview mirrors





So right away , we see that Forbes , Mr. Leinert , and any body who carries this article or posts it on a forum have now virtually no credibility on things automotive .
Specifically , we can see this now because in their minds a recall for 309 RAM 3500s right hand side convex exterior mirrors is to be counted as seriously as 100% of tundra production ie 90,000 - 120 ,000 BALLJOINTS X 2 or , so I don't lose anybody , 309 Dodge RAM 3500 rightside rearview mirrors represent the same safety risk/ manufacturing screw up that 180,000 - 240,000 toyota balljoints do when writing an article about " Most Recalled Automobiles of 2006 ". ( Catch that title - since when are pick up trucks counted as automobiles ? )

In the interest of impartial information I AM going to get the more serious Dodge Ram recalls together and then we all can make an impartial opinion BUT I THINK THAT NO MATTER our own personal biases , preferences , experiences , and vehicle choices this IS Horse feathers , UNFAIR , UNWISE , AND VERY MISLEADING TO THE PEOPLE WHO WILL READ IT .

Oh , and Mr Leinert ,
If you ever read this , I would be very curious if you are long toyota and short Chrysler and things like that - that might help explain this classic example of really poor reporting . I really must ask , do/did you ever work for either one ? What do you drive and how did you pay for it or maybe who paid for it ? Do you do " consulting " work for toyota ?
Oh and yeah , I read your two links related to your primary article discussed here . Just a personal opinion , its too easy to see thru your smoke and mirrors so double on the smoke - and mirrors - if possible .

Speaking of smoke and mirrors , do you think the recall rate here on Dodge mirrors at roughly 309/350,000 - 400,000 is in anyway comparable to the toyota balljoint rate of roughly 200,000/100,000 ?
Tough question isn't it . Let me help you with the math that would be approx. .0007725 vs. 2.0 .
Lets do at test together - which is bigger ?

Thats right !!!! THE CONSUMER IS APPROX. 2,588.996763 TIMES MORE LIKELY to have a 2006 toyota tundra balljoint recall/problem then a recall/problem with a Dodge Ram mirror . Soooo .... in light of all the above how could you evaluate and count 309 Dodge mirrors and ignore approx 200,000 toyota balljoints - oh never mind , its just so obvious .
 
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Chrysler - a German company masquerading as

an American company with plans to start importing cars from China in
2008
- has recalled 77,432 vehicles so far in 2007.




Oh boy, you haven't seen the news today, have you? Add another half million recalled Chryslers to that tally! I really hope DC is selling C off ASAP -- maybe to the Chinese. I don't think Ford or GM wants to buy Chrysler, although they're so good at spending.

The whole car company game is turing into the automotive version of Ten Little Indians. Speaking of which, maybe Hindustan Motors or Tata Motors can buy Chrysler and preserve the name. I never say that, but here goes: lol

current Chrysler recall
 
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Still less than toyota and thats not counting the Sludge Settlement damage which in most ways that matter is much worse than a recall . Ask toyota if they could do it over again ..........
 
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Paul Lienert? The guy who said "I'm constantly amazed at how many people wrap themselves in the flag when buying cars, but they don't understand that Toyota and Honda have products that literally are 90 percent U.S. content”? Sorry, not me.
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As a side note, I'm just having fun, just like a bunch of others had recently three pages of fun about recalls.
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I couldn't care less what company has how many recalls, and I certainly do not judge companies simply by the number of their recalls.
 
Hey mori here is that nasty transfer case recall leinert used to crucify the Dodge .
#2 of the seven recalls against the Dodge - you know its still less than the tundra right ?
So far ,its 309 +136 vs approx 100,000 .
Really makes you want that new tundra over the DODGE DOESN'T IT .
136 TRANSFER CASES with 4 loose bolts each . While 4 is bigger than 2 I'd rather have 4 bolts loose like this than 2 bad balljoints although thats a personal choice NEVER MIND THE 136 VS APPROX 100,000 .



Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
DODGE / RAM 1500 2006

DODGE / RAM1500 REGCAB SWB 2006

Recall Number: 05V461000
Summary:
ON CERTAIN 4-WHEEL DRIVE PICKUP TRUCKS, THE TOTALLY INTEGRATED POWER MODULE (TIPM) MAY CONTAIN INCORRECT TRANSFER CASE CALIBRATION SET POINTS, POTENTIALLY RESULTING IN INADVERTENT TRANSFER CASE DEFAULT TO NEUTRAL.
Consequence:
IF THIS OCCURS AND THE PARKING BRAKE IS NOT APPLIED, THE VEHICLE MAY ROLL AWAY AND CAUSE A CRASH WITHOUT WARNING.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPROGRAM THE TIPM WITH NEW SOFTWARE THAT PREVENTS THE POTENTIAL FOR THIS CONDITION. THE RECALL BEGAN ON NOVEMBER 7, 2005. OWNERS MAY CONTACT DAIMLERCHRYSLER AT 1-800-853-1403.
Notes:
DAIMLERCHRYSLER RECALL NO. E18. CUSTOMERS MAY CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236; (TTY:1-800-424-9153); OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.
( TOTAL VEHICLES AFFECTED 136 Ram 1500S )
 
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Paul Lienert? The guy who said "I'm constantly amazed at how many people wrap themselves in the flag when buying cars, but they don't understand that Toyota and Honda have products that literally are 90 percent U.S. content”? Sorry, not me.
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Actually as the post indicates its Ken not Paul . Now you have me wondering mori - are they related ?
 
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