Mokanic
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So now the NHTSA is in on the conspiracy against GM? WOW! I didn't realize it was as widespread as a few of you think.


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Thunder on the Tundra: Toyota Trucks Ahead in 2007 Recalls
If you've merely done a moderate amount of Internet surfing or cracked
open a newspaper lately - just about any newspaper - you've undoubtedly
seen the news that Toyota has once again passed Ford in worldwide auto
sales and may pass GM sometime this year.
But what you may not have seen is that Toyota has already passed both
Ford
and GM in a different category - automotive recalls.
Although we've barely passed mid-February, Toyota has already recalled
533,417 vehicles this year (2007) in a mix that, according to
www.AutoRecalls.us,
includes Tundras AND Sequoias BUT doesn't include Camrys'. That puts Toyota on track to
recall
more than the over 1.76 million autos they recalled in the U.S. and
Japan
in 2006, and the 2.2 million they recalled in 2005 when they recalled
more
cars than they built.
What's more, the current recall related to the Turdra trucks and Sequioa
SUVs is similar to the same defect in 800,000 of the same vehicles in
2005.
Maybe somebody at Toyota isn't paying attention?
Hopefully the American consumers are. Recall numbers by domestic
companies
(GM and Ford) so far this year are as follows: Ford, 128,163; Chevrolet,
4,829; and Pontiac, 1,602. Chrysler - a German company masquerading as
an American company with plans to start importing cars from China in
2008
- has recalled 77,432 vehicles so far in 2007.
To be sure, high recall numbers are not good. Auto companies would much
rather prefer high sales numbers instead. As I've already mentioned, theAs I've already mentioned, the
media is abuzz that GM may lose its crown this year to Toyota in
worldwide
auto sales. But for that to ever happen in the U.S. sales category, it's
going to take several more years since GM has a U.S. market share of
24.3%
compared to 15.4% for Toyota. Even Ford, despite their recent troubles,
has a higher domestic market share than Toyota at 17.5%.
But if GM loses their worldwide crown this year, it may actually turn
out
to be a blessing in disguise. Here's why:
First, GM spent 17% less per vehicle this January compared to last
January, which means they are more profitable on a per-unit basis. In
fact, GM expects to report a profit for the most recent quarter.
Second, it may be good for GM to step aside temporarily, for now, and
let
Toyota take all the ammunition that is always aimed at the top dog of
the
industry so there is less pressure and fewer distractions. And when GM
combines their more-solid profitability and their improved quality
together, their public perception will also improve.
Then they can use these admirable qualities to prepare to surge back on
top at the precise time Toyota is in the top slot with their recall
surge
in the news. Toyota's timing at being number one worldwide would create
further skepticism about whether they really deserve their reputation
for
untarnished quality.
According to Business Week's January 22, 2007 issue, Toyota has recalled
9.3 million vehicles in the last three years, which is nearly four times
the number of recalls in the three year period prior to 2004.
Other recent news that won't sit well with a Camry-conscious public is
the
class-action lawsuit recently settled by Toyota regarding ruinous oil
sludge buildup
covering 3.5 million Toyota and Lexus (yes, Lexus) vehicles.
Optimistic statements by Toyota executives aren't going to cut it for
long
- particularly when they don't match well with reality. Denial in the
Camry-company camp seems to be setting in. Toyota's North American
president Jim Press recently disputed the suggestion that his company no
longer enjoys a large lead in reliability over the American competition.
Speculating on the thoughts of American car company well-wishers while
speaking at the recent Chicago Auto Show,
Press said "I think there's some hope that the gap in quality is
closing,
but it really isn't."
Oh, really? That's a pretty strong comment considering Toyota recalled
1.27 million vehicles in one swoop in 2005, recording the biggest-ever
recall in history for a Japanese car company.
But, recalls notwithstanding, the evidence that the quality gap is
closing
is pretty indisputable, and the evidence has been piling up for more
than
just the last couple of years. With the following facts, you can make
your
argument for American car quality fully bulletproof - even among your
most
ardent foreign car-defending friends.
* A February 10, 2003 Business Week told of how undeniable it was that
GM
cars are better built than they used to be. The article cited an
improved
J.D. Power quality ranking and a Consumer Reports recommendation for 13
of
GM's vehicles (equal to 41% of their sales volume) compared to just five
recommended GM vehicles for the previous year. The Chevy Impala beat the
Camry in a quality survey, and Buick beat BMW.
* Business Week also reported September 23, 2003 that GM boosted its
productivity 23% in six years while Toyota's productivity remained flat,
and that GM's most-productive factories now beat Toyota's
most-productive
factories.
* A 2004 Consumer Reports ranking selected the Buick Regal as the most
reliable among family sedans, beating the Toyota Camry, Honda Accord and
Nissan Maxima. They also gave recommended ratings for four Ford models,
including the Ford Focus.
* J.D. Power and Associates awarded Cadillac's Lansing Grand River
assembly center its highest honor - the Gold Plant Quality Award - in
2004.
* An August 4, 2004 Wall Street Journal article said Toyota's lead in
quality and reliability has narrowed in some segments and disappeared in
others. Quality problems were reportedly "mushrooming."
* The Toyota Camry hasn't been awarded the best in its segment since the
year 2000, but many Americans continue to regard it as the number one
model in terms of quality. Toyota's Kentucky Camry plant was awarded
with
high initial quality rankings by J.D. Power from the late 1980s through
the 1990s, but it plummeted to number 26 in 2002, improving to only
number
14 in 2004, while two GM factories and one Ford factory took the top
three
spots that year.
* In a J.D. Power Initial Quality Survey of new 2004 cars, Chevy placed
second behind Honda and Toyota sank to number three.
* As far back as at least 2003, Business Week has reported that American
consumers regard certain foreign cars as better built than American
cars,
even when facts prove otherwise.
* Fast-forwarding to 2006, J.D. Power shows Mercury, Buick and Cadillac
beat Toyota in a list of dependable cars. Two Buicks and a Mercury took
the top three midsize car awards; Mercury, Ford and Buick took the top
three large car awards; Ford took the midsize van award and the midsize
truck award; and GMC and Cadillac took the large MAV (multi-purpose
activity vehicle) and large premium MAV awards, respectively.
* In an article about trust issues, Business Week's December 11, 2006
issue stated "GM's quality nearly equals Toyota's." Perceived quality
among the American public is another story, however. The difference
between the actual quality of American cars and the perceived quality of
American cars is the "perception gap."
* In the same article, J.D. Power's director for retail research said
"Actual quality is so close." discussing the quality rankings of GMC,
Chevrolet and Cadillac placing them on par with both Honda and Toyota.
* And most recently, of course, the Ford Fusion and Mercury Milan beat
the
Honda Accord and Toyota Camry according to Consumer Reports.
What's needed among automotive senior executives, and much of the media
as
well, is a return to intellectual honesty. Everyone tends to have their
favorites and biases (mine are pretty obvious) but I pride myself in
sticking with the facts to back up my comments.
When Toyotas North American president says that the quality gap isn't
really closing, he's not being intellectually honest.
Some editorial writers aren't either. When Douglas Brinkley trumpeted
Indiana's success in a Wall Street Journal article last year for
attracting a Honda plant to their state - even though it took $140
million
in tax credits and incentives - he wasn't what you would call
"intellectually honest." In an apparent attempt to convince the reader
that Honda doesn't send any automobiles to the U.S. from outside the
country, he said the
following: "Turning farm fields into factories, that's what Henry Ford
used to do. Today, in the heartland, it's being done by Honda - a
company
that doesn't manufacture imports but builds American-made cars."
Such statements lead the reader to think that some Japanese companies
make
all of their cars in the USA. Hardly. In fact, according to a January 8,
2007 Wall Street Journal article, the NAP ratio - a ratio that compares
how many cars are built in North America vs. the number of cars imported
-
is slipping for Toyota. And according to Toyota internal documentation,
the ratio is going to worsen next year.
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We can up date and correct all this when I get back ,but until then Mokanic heres your key #
TOYOTA RECALLS WORLDWIDE FROM 1JAN2003 - 18JAN2007 ( 3YEARS 18 DAYS ) MORE THAN 9.83 MILLION
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Not all recalls are a bad thing. I bought a Ford Explorer and I had 55,000 miles on it when the Firestone tire problem came up.
I got a letter from Ford telling me to take it to my dealer and get new tires.
FORD put on 5 new tires I drove on them for more than a year then they told me that they wanted to replace my new Firestone tires.
Ford paid for 5 new Michelin LTX tires. At this rate I never will need to buy tires just let FORD pay for them.
Every Goodyear tire I bought went bad. Last ones I put on a Bronco and One was shaped like a football.Quote:
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Not all recalls are a bad thing. I bought a Ford Explorer and I had 55,000 miles on it when the Firestone tire problem came up.
I got a letter from Ford telling me to take it to my dealer and get new tires.
FORD put on 5 new tires I drove on them for more than a year then they told me that they wanted to replace my new Firestone tires.
Ford paid for 5 new Michelin LTX tires. At this rate I never will need to buy tires just let FORD pay for them.
Well it was bad for Ford...since the better explosion proof Goodyears were $.25 more each...but Ford wanted to save a buck on each new Exploder.![]()
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I've said this before and I'll say it again. Two of my closest freinds own automotive repair shops, one for all makes and one for imports (he'll tell you they do break!). However, both are always so busy they barely know what the internet is and have no extra time in their lives. Mokanic has all day long to post over and over on the net. Are you really a wrench? Somehow, I doubt it. If you just love Toyotas and Kubotas so much, admit it. I wouldnt think bad of you for liking brands that treat you well, however, faking being a wrench to make your point seem "real" is a whole different story.
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Chrysler - a German company masquerading as
an American company with plans to start importing cars from China in
2008
- has recalled 77,432 vehicles so far in 2007.
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Paul Lienert? The guy who said "I'm constantly amazed at how many people wrap themselves in the flag when buying cars, but they don't understand that Toyota and Honda have products that literally are 90 percent U.S. content”? Sorry, not me.![]()