Tire pressure changes for no reason

Also keep in mind the sunny side of the car can be a couple psi higher due to differential temperatures too.
Very good point. I wonder, afaik new cars don’t have tpms in the wheel, they use the abs system and rotation. Is the psi reading on the dash accurate in this case? The Jaco is very accurate, so when in doubt I use it…
 
Also keep in mind the sunny side of the car can be a couple psi higher due to differential temperatures too.
That's why I check and adjust the tire pressure only in the garage in the morning. The temperature in my garage is pretty consistent with summer temperatures rarely over 70°F and winter temperatures rarely under 55°F. for those who want to be super-precise, they make temperature-compensated tire pressure gauges.
 
Very good point. I wonder, afaik new cars don’t have tpms in the wheel, they use the abs system and rotation. Is the psi reading on the dash accurate in this case? The Jaco is very accurate, so when in doubt I use it…
Indirect TPMS has not yet supplanted direct TPMS. None of those systems is critically accurate.
 
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Another point is that unless you're tracking your car, tire pressure is not critically important as long as if falls within a reasonable range. Two or three degrees in either direction of the OEM indicated pressure is going to only have minor impacts on how the car drives. Extreme precision in tire pressure is not necessary.
 
Another point is that unless you're tracking your car, tire pressure is not critically important as long as if falls within a reasonable range. Two or three degrees in either direction of the OEM indicated pressure is going to only have minor impacts on how the car drives. Extreme precision in tire pressure is not necessary.
The TPMS is not meant to be used for setting and monitoring the operating tire pressure even if that's how many people use it out of ignorance. The TPMS is meant as a warning system that goes off when the tire pressure is low or too high by over 25%. I keep the tire pressure within better than 0.5 psi among all 4 tires.
 
The TPMS is not meant to be used for setting and monitoring the operating tire pressure even if that's how many people use it out of ignorance. The TPMS is meant as a warning system that goes off when the tire pressure is low or too high by over 25%. I keep the tire pressure within better than 0.5 psi among all 4 tires.
Agreed that the TPMS systems are not highly accurate, but again, it doesn't need to be. I would argue a 4 or 5 psi spread among all the tires is basically meaningless for Mom's grocery getter.
 
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Another point is that unless you're tracking your car, tire pressure is not critically important as long as if falls within a reasonable range. Two or three degrees in either direction of the OEM indicated pressure is going to only have minor impacts on how the car drives. Extreme precision in tire pressure is not necessary.
Please correct me if I am wrong,...but I thought it was necessary to keep the tire pressures even, so there is even wear? Teach me if I am wrong. Also the dealership put them at 35 PSI which is what is indicated on the door jamb. I noticed an increase in gas consumption. I usually keep it at 36 PSI. Not sure why this would make such a big difference. Also I don't like the drag feeling at 35 PSI. I am so sensitive, I can even tell which tire is lower than the other.
 
Nitrogen vs Air...the new 'thick vs thin' debate.
🤦‍♂️. How much nitrogen do people think is in “air”?

There is no debate among those who understand high school chemistry.

PV=nRT

That’s it.

There is a very slight difference in the rate of diffusion, and there is the matter of partial pressures in that diffusion, but most of the “debate” about nitrogen vs. air in tires is predicated on scientific ignorance.

PV=nRT is, by the way, where we get the “10 degrees F = 1 PSI”. It is the result of that equation, the universal gas law.
 
I noticed an increase in gas consumption. I usually keep it at 36 PSI. Not sure why this would make such a big difference. Also I don't like the drag feeling at 35 PSI. I am so sensitive, I can even tell which tire is lower than the other.
I could see 5 psi. But i'm not buying feeling drag, from 35-36 psi. Or your gauge is off. Not believing a fuel economy difference either in 1 psi. It's either all in your mind, or your gauge is off.
 
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Please correct me if I am wrong,...but I thought it was necessary to keep the tire pressures even, so there is even wear? Teach me if I am wrong. Also the dealership put them at 35 PSI which is what is indicated on the door jamb. I noticed an increase in gas consumption. I usually keep it at 36 PSI. Not sure why this would make such a big difference. Also I don't like the drag feeling at 35 PSI. I am so sensitive, I can even tell which tire is lower than the other.
For everyday street driving, keeping the tires inflated to exactly the sticker stated level is not critical. A few pounds under or over is only going to matter if you are driving the car near the edge of its handling capability and in that case, the sticker rated pressure is going to almost always not be the ideal pressure. When racing, the ideal pressure will depend on the condition of the tires, the specific type of tire, ambient air temps, the temperature of the track surface, the type of track material, the type of racing, and the style of driving the driver prefers. You probably would even want different pressures from front to back or from side to side depending on the weight distribution of the car, etc. As for fuel economy, a couple of pounds lower pressure is going to make so little difference as to be lost in the statistical noise.
 
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Nitrogen vs Air...the new 'thick vs thin' debate.
Nitrogen for passenger cars has made some people a lot of money.
And given many people a sense of security.
If it's good enough for race cars, and airplanes, it's good enough for a true salesperson.
 
Agreed that the TPMS systems are not highly accurate, but again, it doesn't need to be. I would argue a 4 or 5 psi spread among all the tires is basically meaningless for Mom's grocery getter.
You mean her SL Roadster? I've seen her put groceries in. 😇
 
Just an FYI:

Tire wear is not as closely tied to pressure as it is to alignment and position on the vehicle.

Steer tires tend to wear in the shoulders and drive tires tend to wear in the center. That means you can see the difference on RWD cars, but not on FWD cars.

Even small amounts of toe can cause tires to wear more rapidly. By comparison, you have to have quite a bit of mal-inflation to get the same amount of wear that a small amount of misalignment causes.
 
A few pounds difference won't really matter. I see that on my car parked outside; the sunny side will have higher pressures than the shady side; if I'm OCD that day I'll scan my TPMS tire pressure monitor system readout. Sometimes I leave it on and see how the pressures react to my driving operations on the car.

I used to think TMPS were a government over-reach, but it saved our ass when we got a puncture. Cruise control quit, warnings flashed, and we could see the pressure dropping on the punctured tire. We still have pressure in the teens when we pulled into a very handy tire store.
 
Nitrous, or nitrogen?
Nitrogen.

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🤦‍♂️. How much nitrogen do people think is in “air”?

There is no debate among those who understand high school chemistry.

PV=nRT

That’s it.

There is a very slight difference in the rate of diffusion, and there is the matter of partial pressures in that diffusion, but most of the “debate” about nitrogen vs. air in tires is predicated on scientific ignorance.

PV=nRT is, by the way, where we get the “10 degrees F = 1 PSI”. It is the result of that equation, the universal gas law.
Yes there is lots of nitrogen in ambient air, so what? Using Nitrogen is all about eliminating the oxygen. Not quite sure why people refuse to understand that. It has less to do with more oxygen than it does Eliminating O2 down to a couple PSI. Eliminate to O2 and you eliminate the moisture content, and its the moisture content within the tire that contributes to the drastic changes in tire pressure. I choose the inert gas and get very little deviance in temp related pressure changes.
 
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