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About smoking(& I smoked cigarettes for 30+ years): No one- and I mean *No One*- has more data on life span & its correlation to activities & habits than the Life Insurance companies. (I held a Life & Health ins license for 2 yrs.) The 3 main questions they ask when you want to buy a life insurance policy are:

1. Age
2. Gender
3. Do you smoke?

If you smoke, scuba dive & ride motorcycles- uh, just start your own savings acct.
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Originally Posted By: dave1251
You like Glenmorangie and Cigars. We have more in common than I believed. Most people do not even know what Glenmorangie is.


Yep also a big fan of the 18.
 
Originally Posted By: Kestas
About the cheaper insurance thing. Before, they simply asked you if you're a smoker. Now I believe they have a way to "drug" test you for tobacco.


Really any substance that leaves its specific markers in your blood, urine, saliva, or hair can be tested for, and nicotine testing is growing in popularity. It is by definition a drug. There are employers and insurance companies that will test for it.
 
Originally Posted By: dave1251
Yeah I am not even 35 yet, but I will only have a drink of alcohol once every blue moon. But I still enjoy my cigar every now and again.


Getting good cigars up here gets harder and harder all the time. While Cubans are legal, the marketing legislation has made it all but impossible for dedicated tobacco shops to survive.

In this province, anything with a pharmacy cannot sell tobacco. So, Superstore (a big grocery chain here that has a pharmacy department) sets up separate tobacco shops on site, with a separate entrance and everything. If under 18 year olds are allowed in a store, then tobacco products must be hidden. Smoking isn't allowed in any businesses, so those shops that used to sell expensive, single cigars and have couches and newspapers and chess boards or the like or allow pipe smokers to try blends no longer exist, either.

Of course, that's all separate from the high tobacco taxes we have here. I don't think there's a pack of smokes available for under $11. The taxation policies alone almost killed chewing tobacco. For years, the government would regularly raise the prices of cigarettes, incrementally, of course. A little bit here and there is a minor deterrence, but brings in the revenue. Someone noticed that they hadn't raised the taxes on loose tobacco (including chew) for over a decade. They decided to "fix" it all at once, almost tripling the price of chew. National Tobacco (who markets Skoal and Copenhagen up here) had to shrink the package to bring the price below the tipping point. Then, the government started raising it again, so the packages had to get larger again, since the small packages hit a tipping point. Yeesh.
 
When I started smoking hand rolled cigars about 5 years ago my favorites were 80.00 for box of 25. Now they are 125.00 mostly because of the tax increase a couple years ago.
Cigarettes which I never smoked are full of chemicals that will kill you.
If you are going to use tobacco, cigar or pipe is the safest but will still mess you up. I didnt start cigars till age 50 so i hope something else will get me before them.
 
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: dave1251
Yeah I am not even 35 yet, but I will only have a drink of alcohol once every blue moon. But I still enjoy my cigar every now and again.


Getting good cigars up here gets harder and harder all the time. While Cubans are legal, the marketing legislation has made it all but impossible for dedicated tobacco shops to survive.

In this province, anything with a pharmacy cannot sell tobacco. So, Superstore (a big grocery chain here that has a pharmacy department) sets up separate tobacco shops on site, with a separate entrance and everything. If under 18 year olds are allowed in a store, then tobacco products must be hidden. Smoking isn't allowed in any businesses, so those shops that used to sell expensive, single cigars and have couches and newspapers and chess boards or the like or allow pipe smokers to try blends no longer exist, either.

Of course, that's all separate from the high tobacco taxes we have here. I don't think there's a pack of smokes available for under $11. The taxation policies alone almost killed chewing tobacco. For years, the government would regularly raise the prices of cigarettes, incrementally, of course. A little bit here and there is a minor deterrence, but brings in the revenue. Someone noticed that they hadn't raised the taxes on loose tobacco (including chew) for over a decade. They decided to "fix" it all at once, almost tripling the price of chew. National Tobacco (who markets Skoal and Copenhagen up here) had to shrink the package to bring the price below the tipping point. Then, the government started raising it again, so the packages had to get larger again, since the small packages hit a tipping point. Yeesh.



Yikes!
 
Yep, tobacco retailing is quite a mess up here. I'm afraid to see what the price of my former favourites in alcohol would be right now. I do know that people up here who find beer for $2 a can think it's a bargain.
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There is a class of smokers that are fed up with the price of tobacco and the tax imposed on it. They have taken up the hobby of growing their own tobacco and making their own cigarettes. It's perfectly legal in all 50 states as long as you don't sell finished (dried, cured, and shredded) tobacco to others.

http://www.howtogrowtobacco.com/

I've grown two crops. With what little I smoke - a pipe about once a month (cigars are too much) - I have enough tobacco to last me for decades.
 
I greatly enjoy my Briar tobacco pipe packed with some Carolina honey maple tobacco and I'm a happy man. I only smoke during the summer and usually on the weekends. A cooler of beer on ice at my feet or a glass of bourbon on ice is an added plus.
 
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