Thinking Of Not Using Motorcraft & Mopar Filters..

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Most of the time when we rebuild a Ford Or Chrysler engine we will put a Motorcraft filter on the ford and a mopar filter on the Chryslers just because it look good and some people like that but i may not be doing this anymore because they are made by purolater and their quality is nowhere near the way they used to be.
I used them because like i said they look original and i know they used to flow very well and on a newly rebuilt engine that is important. Im looking for opinions should i change or still use them even know they could be problem filters?
 
Not your engine I say
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If you have the budget upgrade them.
 
My dad's Ford doesn't like MC filters at all. It ticks for a few seconds each start up. I installed the last 820s a little over a month ago, but will be trying Fram and WIX next.
 
It seems like half of your posts are you trying to decide what oil filter to use.
I think you need to grow a set and decide for yourself. Are you or your customers having problems with a Motorcraft or a Mopar filter? If you are, change to a different brand and then tell your customers why you changed. If YOU (or your customers) are NOT having problems, then why do you want to change? Exactly how many Motorcraft or Mopar filters have YOU seen with problems?
So do you lie awake at night wondering if the pistons or the bearing manufacturer needs to be changed also? Do you actually have a shop?
 
Originally Posted By: Kruse
It seems like half of your posts are you trying to decide what oil filter to use.
I think you need to grow a set and decide for yourself. Are you or your customers having problems with a Motorcraft or a Mopar filter? If you are, change to a different brand and then tell your customers why you changed. If YOU (or your customers) are NOT having problems, then why do you want to change? Exactly how many Motorcraft or Mopar filters have YOU seen with problems?
So do you lie awake at night wondering if the pistons or the bearing manufacturer needs to be changed also? Do you actually have a shop?


I've wondered this myself.This is very strange to say the least.
 
First post, must say for whatever reason, I think I might also change from the wally moto, thinking logically the media, anway you look at it has come a long ways, o by the way last oil change was wally super tech synthetic 5/20 and man it came out the prettiest black I have ever seen, about 2500 miles, I know early, but was on beater 02 gt stang I just bought that was ragged on, over a thousand gallons of oil changes, so I changed a few.Anyway back too topic, people who think [censored] doesn't change are foolish, did the plugs in two 4.6's recently, and from my micro eye the tolerance s just weren't there.truthfully been wondering about the synthetic oil filters.Think about the micro fiber towels we all use for cleaning, haven't done much research but makes sense.
 
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MC 820S always worked better (in regards to start-up clutter) than any Fram, M1, Bosch I tried. Except for the NAPA Platinum. Those seem to be the best in my Ford modular V8 engines. No scientific proof though, just the audible 'impressions' here.
 
Originally Posted By: RazorsEdge
Originally Posted By: Kruse
It seems like half of your posts are you trying to decide what oil filter to use.
I think you need to grow a set and decide for yourself. Are you or your customers having problems with a Motorcraft or a Mopar filter? If you are, change to a different brand and then tell your customers why you changed. If YOU (or your customers) are NOT having problems, then why do you want to change? Exactly how many Motorcraft or Mopar filters have YOU seen with problems?
So do you lie awake at night wondering if the pistons or the bearing manufacturer needs to be changed also? Do you actually have a shop?


I've wondered this myself.This is very strange to say the least.

+1
 
Originally Posted By: RazorsEdge
Originally Posted By: Kruse
It seems like half of your posts are you trying to decide what oil filter to use.
I think you need to grow a set and decide for yourself. Are you or your customers having problems with a Motorcraft or a Mopar filter? If you are, change to a different brand and then tell your customers why you changed. If YOU (or your customers) are NOT having problems, then why do you want to change? Exactly how many Motorcraft or Mopar filters have YOU seen with problems?
So do you lie awake at night wondering if the pistons or the bearing manufacturer needs to be changed also? Do you actually have a shop?


I've wondered this myself.This is very strange to say the least.

+3.

Seriously, don't you have better things to think about?
 
Originally Posted By: crazyoildude
Most of the time when we rebuild a Ford Or Chrysler engine we will put a Motorcraft filter on the ford and a mopar filter on the Chryslers just because it look good and some people like that but i may not be doing this anymore because they are made by purolater and their quality is nowhere near the way they used to be.
Whose quality is "nowhere near the way they used to be"? Purolator or Motorcraft (I cannot speak to Mopar)? Although the MC filters are manufactured by Purolator, they are engineered and built to Ford specifications. Though Purolator Classics and P1s have had issues, the MC issues on this site have been few and far between. I only stopped using them due to the length of the OCIs that I am running these days and had zero problems with MCs even out to 15K. Since I **doubt** your customers are doing 15K (or even 10K) OCIs on a fresh engine rebuild, I am not following your logic on the decision to stop using them.
 
MC filters have worked very well for me. I have used them for several years now, and will continue to do so.
 
I think using a MC and Mopar filter is a very nice touch to a fresh rebuild. I would appreciate that level of detail. Don't stop what you're doing. Besides I am sure you recommend the first oil change sooner like 1-2000 miles to drain out break in debris. Any filter can go that distance.
 
Maybe try dissecting some yourself and look first hand at the parts and how they fit together etc. The Puro basic design is good, but to me the execution is a fail. The tearing issue finalizes it. I see things like the filter element has room to wiggle sideways due to the sloppy fit of the adbv on the baseplate and bypass valve (dome end). The pleats are shallower than others I am comparing to, mainly the Denso. The cans are thin. The Denso is virtually an identical design but the parts are well fitted and many small details are now apparent to me which shows the difference. Then I opened a Puro made Bosch and saw the adbv off center and tilted, so there would have been no keeping the oil in during use as the filter tilts down in that car. No good, that's it, IMO.
 
I dont blame you for not wanting to run a filter manufactured by Tearolator. I would not trust them to honor their warranty if you had an issue.
 
Motorcraft are made the same way they use to be exclusively for them to Fords specs. They are not the same as Purolator. Don't worry. I dunno about mopar but my guess is they are fine too.
 
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