Aren't many owners dumping their cars because of the inconvenience of charging on the road?
These are just incredible numbers...2019 Model3
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Maybe they didn’t realize you had to plug them in?
Not hardly!
The used car values will go down as production ramps. Tesla is production bound with Fremont supplying the nation and a lotta overseas deliveries. Plus, as new battery technologies are realized, the older car values will suffer...
Depending on what location Fremont is building for, you may have to wait 2 months to get a car.
Giga Berlin will service Europe and Giga Austin will build Model 3 and Y for the mid western and eastern US. Austin will be the biggest car plant in the world.
Tesla keeps setting delivery records, as it did again in Q2. They may get close to 1M deliveries this year, nearly double 2020. Austin and Berlin should start production late this year. Tesla will be selling 2M cars per year starting next year.
And the Model 2 is looming large...
The number of EVs being turned in for ICE cars was about 20%, or 1 in 5. These are primarily the early EVs with lousy range, not Teslas.
The first gen Nissan Leaf had less than 80 mile range. And the battery rapidly degraded. Od course, the newer ones are far better.
My understanding regarding the charging issue, was people who lived in apartments, etc, who could not charge at home.
Elon built the charging network early on. It continues to expand world wide. How else can these cars be viable?
gee. why would anyone part with a vehicle after 14k miles?
there must be a catch. oh. batteries. lots of'em. Lashed together.
Compare an F1 track vs FE. Not ready for prime time.
wemay
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Been there, done that. Some definitely do.
It’s all fun and games until the organizers from the UAW show up. 
I guess some of you have not heard about Tesla's "million mile battery" which realistically will be more like 2 million miles.
Doe that mean people will run their cars for a million miles, or even two ?
No.
I think the "million mile" number means something like the battery will still retain 60% of its original capacity and tests are showing that number will soon be close to two million miles.
Will any Tesla owners drive their cars for a million miles ? Extremely doubtful. Like most drivers, they will want something newer probably well under the 200K mile mark.
Well, what does that all mean ? Elon's goal is to recycle those batteries into another Tesla product that has much less demand upon said battery pack than powering a vehicle does. Therefore when those car owners trade their cars in, the batteries will still have some substantial value and maybe a warranty can even be offered on them if sold as part of a solar system or other Tesla consumer product.
Elon's fertile mind has been working on this issue and I have no doubt that when thousands of used Teslas are on the market with batteries that some may consider to be "worn out", he'll have already be ahead of it with a plan.
Doe that mean people will run their cars for a million miles, or even two ?
No.
I think the "million mile" number means something like the battery will still retain 60% of its original capacity and tests are showing that number will soon be close to two million miles.
Will any Tesla owners drive their cars for a million miles ? Extremely doubtful. Like most drivers, they will want something newer probably well under the 200K mile mark.
Well, what does that all mean ? Elon's goal is to recycle those batteries into another Tesla product that has much less demand upon said battery pack than powering a vehicle does. Therefore when those car owners trade their cars in, the batteries will still have some substantial value and maybe a warranty can even be offered on them if sold as part of a solar system or other Tesla consumer product.
Elon's fertile mind has been working on this issue and I have no doubt that when thousands of used Teslas are on the market with batteries that some may consider to be "worn out", he'll have already be ahead of it with a plan.
What's the MPG at full throttle? 2 MPG? 1 MPG? Even at 1 MPG, you would burn only 0.25 gallons of gas during a 1/4-mile run.
With an average fuel economy of about 20 MPG, a loss of 0.25 gallons of fuel should only drop your "miles to empty" by about 5 miles. Of course, the car's computer would probably show a higher drop in "miles to empty" because it assumes you will continue doing 1/4-mile runs for the rest of the tank, but it should recover once you start driving normally again.
wemay
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My EVO was heavily tuned and had a 12 gallon tank averaging 12 mpg.
Now i remember why i got rid of it. Lol
Smiles per gallon.My EVO was heavily tuned and had a 12 gallon tank averaging 12 mpg.
wemay
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100%Smiles per gallon.
I would rather have a 75 Bronco today bought new, the old style one. No defending the decision every day with stats why, with many more years left. Because that was the last year that no smog required where I live, and the first year designed 100% to run on unleaded. Need a time machine to make it right. A Tesla now, to me, is well, another Tesla in the charging line at Hope, B C.
Except in a microscopically small number of cases 0-60 claims are as jejune as comparing the muzzle velocity of my self defense pistol and another's.
Mostly meaningless bragging rights.
Do they have the "million mile" battery in use now or planned/in development?
It means the battery can go 1,000,000 miles on a charge. Elon told me himself.
Oh yeah and it charges wirelessly in under 2 seconds, right?
Tesla is working on a million mile battery. They estimate that it will retain 90 percent of its life after 4,000 charge/discharge cycles. The technology is still at least a year or two away from being a viable power source for production vehicles.
How many miles are the current Tesla batteries designed for?
I have a 2018 Model 3 Mid Range (not made any more). I believe my warranty is for 8 years or 120,000 miles, whichever comes first, with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity. The batteries are designed to last (in a vehicle) 300K to 500K. Of course, a vehicle makes huge demands on a battery; the old batteries are valuable and can be repurposed.
Reports of high milage cars show better results. A fleet of Tesla taxis, with over 300K, show a degradation of less than 10%.
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