The South remains the largest gainer in migration.

[GON]

Chart showing migration to the south still captures the largest gains in the U.S.

Salt Lake City still growing strong, as it has for over a decade. The only surprising numbers in the top ten are Midland, TX and Odessa, TX. Didn't see that coming and the growth in those two areas worthy of getting some understanding--- not a lot there except some higher paying energy jobs.

 

[GON]

Additional complimenting chart:

 

[Number_35]

Just to make sure I understand, these figures would be the net result of:

- births,

- deaths,

- interstate migration,

- immigration from other countries, and

emigration to other countries.

Am I understanding correctly?

 

[Hohn]

Caution: just because an area is growing in population doesn’t mean you want to live there.

Source: sister lives in Odessa. I used to live in Midland. I’d REALLY try hard to never move back.

 

[Pablo]

WA case. You gotta be nuts to move here.

GON again!

 

[Zee09]

WA case. You gotta be nuts to move here.

GON again!

I'm on the phone with DHS now trying to get GON deported

 

[SC Maintenance]

Just to make sure I understand, these figures would be the net result of:

- births,

- deaths,

- interstate migration,

- immigration from other countries, and

emigration to other countries.

Am I understanding correctly?

That sort of thing has been posted here before, likely by @GON. Showed the same general trend - people moving from high cost of living places like the NE and West Coast, to lower COL places like the Southeast and desert Southwest. Lots of it is retirees, but much of it is not. Businesses are moving too for a lot of the same reasons.

 

[AKhan87]

love it! Wyoming is holding steady at no population!

 

[dlundblad]

WA case. You gotta be nuts to move here.

GON again!

Can you move?

 

[GON]

Caution: just because an area is growing in population doesn’t mean you want to live there.

Source: sister lives in Odessa. I used to live in Midland. I’d REALLY try hard to never move back.

Isn't that what they said about Phoenix AZ in the 1970s and 1980s?

Not questioning your assessment of Midland or Odessa..my Wife concurs with your assessment.

 

[Pablo]

Can you move?

Ima waiting to find out where grandkids end up or Hawaii in 5 years or so

It is not so bad here on our property. In fact paradise for us but insane P word can just be too much.

 

[Rmay635703]

Additional complimenting chart:
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Aren’t Florida and Texas where rent and housing costs are decreasing the fastest?
(Aka properties are taking the longest to sell and loosing value the fastest)

Based on the above it appears the areas with the highest losses are also the areas with the most inward migration. (From the map of the country based on value/price drops from a particular YouTuber)

 

[GON]

Aren’t Florida and Texas where rent and housing costs are decreasing the fastest?
(Aka properties are taking the longest to sell and loosing value the fastest)

Based on the above it appears the areas with the highest losses are also the areas with the most inward migration. (From the map of the country based on value/price drops from a particular YouTuber)

Be careful cherry picking data. The chart's posted do not lie, nor is the data cherry picked.

Earlier this morning I read a article negative on Las Vegas real estate market. Yet the data doesn't lie, the article writer admitted Las Vegas is still, today, this very minute with a 67 percent increase in year iver year homes on the market...... Still a sellers market.

Illinois is reported one of the hottest real estate markets in the US this year. Yet, a person bought a home in Florida, Noth Carolina, South Carolina, Texas, Arizona, Utah, etc ten years ago, they doubled their money, yet Illinois homeowners didn't even keep up with inflation in their home prices over the past decade.

One needs to look at trends. The trend is without question people, and more importantly major businesses, are steadily fleeing the upper Midwest and northeast for the South, southeast, southwest, and mountain West.

Other than Ohio, on a macro basis almost every new major manufacturing, industry, and global organization headquarters in the past 20 years has been moved, or established in the Southeast , and Southwest. Yes, a handful on a micro basis in the upper Midwest and Northeast, but on a macro basis all charts universally and accurately point to southeast and southwest is the future for American business growth.

 

[Fitter30]

Money is money if a state has no income tax they have to get the money from somewhere for city's with comparable amenities. In Missouri has state tax, vehicles have personal property tax and then there city and county tax both on the houses,vehicles, personal property and sales tax. Then there TIF
tax Local Tax Increment Financing to bring in building / shopping.
City water,sewer,trash, streets, snow removal, parks ,paved trails, police & fire, swimming pools both indoor and out ,ice rink and a rec plex. Taxes on a $310k house $3400 3 years ago.

 

[SC Maintenance]

Aren’t Florida and Texas where rent and housing costs are decreasing the fastest?
(Aka properties are taking the longest to sell and loosing value the fastest)

Based on the above it appears the areas with the highest losses are also the areas with the most inward migration. (From the map of the country based on value/price drops from a particular YouTuber)

Yes, they went up 100% and now have fallen 5%. THE HORROR!. Below is Orlando.

But yes, Florida has definitely overbuilt. I would not want to live there currently. But much of the new growth is retirees flush with cash to spend so it might be a good place for a while.

 

[Pew]

Would be interesting to see the demographics, particularly age as Gen X begins to retire.

 

[SC Maintenance]

Would be interesting to see the demographics, particularly age as Gen X begins to retire.

You have at least 5 more years of boomer retirement. They think last year might have been peak retiree, but they won't really know for a couple years at least.

GenX can't afford to retire.

 

[Pablo]

You have at least 5 more years of boomer retirement. They think last year might have been peak retiree, but they won't really know for a couple years at least.

GenX can't afford to retire.

Came here to say this

 

[Pew]

You have at least 5 more years of boomer retirement. They think last year might have been peak retiree, but they won't really know for a couple years at least.

GenX can't afford to retire.

Ah okay, I only did a google of the Gen X ages and assumed 60 was an early retirement age.

 

[53' Stude]

Ima waiting to find out where grandkids end up or Hawaii in 5 years or so

It is not so bad here on our property. In fact paradise for us but insane P word can just be too much.

I’d move to Hawaii in a second or I’d go to Alaska Been there 3 times loved it; especially Skagway