The AMSOIL filters have been made by a number of different companies, which varied based on product #. Donaldson made some, WIX made some...etc. However, historically, they used the Donaldson synthetic media regardless of who put together the can, not sure if that is still the case, perhaps @Pablo knows?
I am with you. Not sure I will be able to sleep at night. Absolutely horrendous news.
Everything else is a downgrade.
Hastings, Baldwin, Champ, etc.......Amsoil contracts the filter assembly.
Your opinion is your opinion. Fram just downgraded their own filter. Please, mock and ridicule me: Prove otherwise?
What if fram's been lying about their 20 micron results all these years? Lol
Acsent filtration shows otherwise. Most filters are worse efficiency wise than even the extra guard. The media in the video does not look like it even needs a wire backing, if it does indeed hold the same efficiency specs (and we have no reason to believe it doesn't) then it doesn't matter. The Fram filters are still better than almost every other brand out there. Many oil filters out there are barely glorified rock catchers, Frams filters actually remove particles where it counts for engine wear and longevity.
As mentioned ... no. Fram actually seems to be more honest with their efficiency claims than other big filter companies. The Ultra tested here (link below) showed to be even better than what Fram advertises, but keep in mind that Fram takes into account the average of 3 different sizes and they also don't want to "over claim" either.
Well said. When it actually comes to filter efficiency Fram is a great value. I only use the regular orange can Fram extra guard, hard to beat for the efficiency/cost, haven't had an issue in 30 years on numerous vehicles.
I see no evidence that they've degraded the filter's efficiency in any way, which is what is being assumed here.
As a fellow accountant I hear you. Can’t stand the “bean counter” excuse. It’s childishBeing an accountant your bean counter comments are hurtful, I'll make sure everyone here suffers even more when it comes to oil filters in the future. I made this happen. . . I wanted you all to suffer while I keep all the wire backed Fram US filters for myself
The accounting departments job is to keep net income after taxes black and away from the red, that can be done by increasing product prices and leaving variable costs the same, keeping product costs the sames and reducing variable costs, or the best option, increasing the price while decreasing variable costs. To add, it's other job is to increase the net income after taxes amount as well. Heirachy is: Shareholders, Board members, execs, management and employees. What do shareholders want? Dividends and increase in stock price if they want to or need to cash out.
I bet you any money, some jerk(s) ran a variance analysis (rate and efficiency) for both labour and materials, saw a way to make even more money and took it to the seniors to get a promotion/pay raise. It is what it is. The issue with this is most accounting department folk are not die hard oil/filte/automotive enthusiasts or DIY-ers when it comes to their cars/bikes/farm equip/planes etc.
I looked at the figures, the filtration seem legitimate still and obviously better than what it was before, but I do have some skepticism. Wire backed media are not that common and there are other filters that do a great job without a wired backing. But the gripe here is, "I am paying X price FOR the wired backing to be included and if you increase the price of the filter and take it away, then why should I bother"?
Would love to see this filter used on a OCI and see how it holds up (any warped pleats etc). Then we can see what's good. Still, I'm disappointed to say the least.
To each his own but I’m going to continue to purchase the Fram Ultra. It looks like they increased the efficiency in the sub-20 micron range a bit and increased the pleat count which should help with the already stellar delta-p performance of the Ultra. The only downside is they got rid of the metal backing, Honestly though, 95+% of other filters don’t have metal backing screens and they perform just fine.
