My Model 3 (which has a turn signal stalk) gives me trouble at one particular corner which is a little less than 90 degrees. At that particular corner the turn signal does not cancel. At first I would be signalling right, left, then right again as I came around the corner, trying to cancel the darned thing. Makes you look like a dufus.I'm immediately reminded of the Cyber Truck that was lane changing to the left while it was signalling to the right, this is what this idiocy has wrought.
Or just get a Highland?My Model 3 (which has a turn signal stalk) gives me trouble at one particular corner which is a little less than 90 degrees. At that particular corner the turn signal does not cancel. At first I would be signalling right, left, then right again as I came around the corner, trying to cancel the darned thing. Makes you look like a dufus.
I now know it won't cancel at that corner so I do it manually before I enter the corner. Maybe I should roll down the window and do a hand signal instead.
Understatement!Given the inherently limited audience of the Ferrari, that's not going to be much of a problem for the unwashed masses. The level of affluence necessary to experience this resigns it to statistical insignificance in terms of its impact on the driving experience at large.
The Model 3 on the other hand costs considerably less than my Jeep. Ergo, it's very much attainable for the folks that would drive into the car in front of them looking down at the wheel trying to find the indicator controls. I'm immediately reminded of the Cyber Truck that was lane changing to the left while it was signalling to the right, this is what this idiocy has wrought.
I think this is why I like my VW so much. It has all the latest stuff, but the things that I really care about having physical controls like climate control and heated seats have real buttons. The new one has moved in the Tesla direction.I've only driven the non-Highland version, which has a traditional stalk.
I prefer a blend of physical controls and screens. My wife's RAM is better than my Jeep in this respect as it even has physical buttons for the seat and wheel heat (as well as those being available in the touch screen). Add a HUD and you are set.
I don't think they were being cheap. I genuinely think they thought it would be an improvement. It would be serious bragging rights if the system they started using ended up being the mainstream design in the automotive industry. I hope it's not the one that goes there.Touch capacitive buttons, touchscreen...almost the same thing. They were too cheap to put a stalk in like every other car.
That way I wouldn't use turn signals at all.Or just get a Highland?
And Ferrari.Touch capacitive buttons, touchscreen...almost the same thing. They were too cheap to put a stalk in like every other car.
Or Lamborghini.
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Or an Audi RS8.
The R8 still has the standard stalks. I can see there the same ones on my VW. The arrow buttons on the left side of the wheel are for the screen function in the gauge cluster.
Blame Elon. Most really stupid ideas at Tesla were because of him. Removing the radar on autopilot, the yoke, the Cybertruck, and this. He has to make it look like he's doing something.Bets on when the first lawsuits hit for the tablet software screwing up a gear change? Whether it's an inadvertent driver input, software lag, or a plain bug, it's going to happen eventually. Guess it depends on whether it runs over a politician or not when it happens.
I do sort of wonder why companies like Tesla decide to change things like turn signals, which have to this point been pretty universal. Is it just to be different? Actual driver demand for a change? Progress for the sake of progress rarely leads anywhere useful.
The new stalk is worse than the old one. The old one feels like a normal car. The new one that is in the Y has a hard stop. It's not two stage like most German vehicles. I end up pulling way too hard on the new style stalk and bottoming it out hard. I feel like I'm going to break it. I don't think this would be a problem if I didn't mostly drive the older car. Tesla has an auto cancel feature changing lanes which is the dumbest feature known to man because as we all know tap to the first click to get 3 flashes when changing lanes.NUTS IT IS/WAS in China.
Tesla is now offering an upgrade kit "retrofit turn signal stalk" to replaced the one it removed on the new Model 3 !!
Only available in China at a cost of $348 to put a stalk back on the steering column.
Cant make this stuff up.
"Tesla will sell you back the turn signal stalk it removed from the Model 3"
https://www.theverge.com/tesla/761325/tesla-turn-sginal-stalk-model-3-retrofit-price-china
"Many Tesla owners confessed to hating their stalk-less cockpits and openly wishing that Tesla would bring them back."
Who is running this company? Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck. Im sure its not the duck!
The aftermarket has offered stalks for some time. My car has them. Install takes 15 minutes; you Daisey chain the controller into the harness and stick the stalks on.NUTS IT IS/WAS in China.
Tesla is now offering an upgrade kit "retrofit turn signal stalk" to replaced the one it removed on the new Model 3 !!
Only available in China at a cost of $348 to put a stalk back on the steering column.
Cant make this stuff up.
"Tesla will sell you back the turn signal stalk it removed from the Model 3"
https://www.theverge.com/tesla/761325/tesla-turn-sginal-stalk-model-3-retrofit-price-china
"Many Tesla owners confessed to hating their stalk-less cockpits and openly wishing that Tesla would bring them back."
Who is running this company? Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck. Im sure its not the duck!
Shouldn’t have to get used to it.I haven’t had any issues with my 2025 Model 3. You get used to it real quick.
Shouldn’t have to get used to it.
A turn signal is not. A seat belt is not. A steering wheel is not. A brake pedal is not. There are certain standards that need to be adhered to. Don’t try to push the Tesla does it must be better thing.Why not? It’s not any different than getting used to any other feature on any other car?
I am sure some people would struggle, and it's not an intelligence issue.Shouldn’t have to get used to it.