Tesla Christmas Road Trip - Battery needed frequent re-charging - Range Estimates were 50% to 69% off
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Yes and I will bet @demarpaint doesnt know a higher end golf car driven around in these commutes get over $10,000 to $14,000 and why if we did an EV it would be a GM Bolt for both uses, around the community and on the road *LOL*
When you drive in the winter, some vehicles defrost system sucks. Our Honda Pilot is like that, we have to have the defrost on HI to clear the frost while driving, or the melted snow, freezing rain from accumulating on top down into the field of view. I don't know why, but that car is like that. Also, if the floor is damp from snow you tracked in and starts drying from the floor vents, the windows start to fog up with moisture, so you need to crack the window to clear it out.
I find it unbelievable how EV proponents even in BITOG will deny facts and make excuses. Im like HELLO? *LOL*
Reading posts like, this "guy didnt even know how to start the car" and he must be doing something wrong, charging to frequently. Come on man, what do they think the public will do?
The Tesla vehicle told him the remaining range he could drive right there on the TESLA information screen, so these posts discounting this reporters experience are admitting that Tesla is not ready for prime time if they were correct, which they are not.
I find it scary how some will make excuses based on nothing, even from some in here that I enjoy conversation with. To deny facts are the people who actually have an agenda, not the person presenting the facts.
Now I read more comments on turn down the heat *LOL* hey man, did you every drive in ice cold conditions with water freezing on your windshield during storms and have to keep the defroster on full blast, even then, get out of the car to knock the ice off the blades because they will no longer make contact with the windshield. Not only that, but you have to open the car window to let out the heat you are blowing on the windshield to stop the windshield from freezing up, which still doesnt always work.
Good gosh, just admit the short comings and not try to pretend there arent limitations to battery operated vehicles. EVs have a place for some people but they are not universally convenient for much of the public as the ICE. And honestly we need to increase EVs on the road by 1000% percent to get even with ICE Vehicles. By then I suspect another technology comes along because we will never get that 1000% increase without a new technology.
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Generally true, but reality has a way of chewing away at the range estimates. Especially when it is really cold.
I've found that I like to go fast. Anyone who has done a fast road trip in an EV knows you won't make the predicted supercharger.
Did a West Palm Beach to Miami and back road trip, 200 miles, in a Model S. BARELY made it back. Something like 4% remaining. Had to go stupidly slow when it became clear it was not possible at typical speeds.
To do my round trip properly, it would require careful speed management in the right lane.
For sure - I can tank any range estimate in any vehicle by playing around.
I've made dozens of 1K trips (500 miles each way) in EV's, P85D and a P100 mostly.
It doesn't take much in the way of tomfoolery to kill range.
It's not playing around. It easy to drive 85 MPH in the land of the free. IN fact, it's pretty close to normal in the Carolinas to Florida trips.
Why are facts playing around? @Cujet presents his real life experience and I can confirm it's almost normal to drive those speeds. Depending on the day you can almost get run over doing 80 and you will have cars come up behind you in the left lane well over that.
I dont think I ever did under 82. I wont say what my peak speed was.
Once at my destination roughly 287 miles, I pull into the gas station, fill up in what 7 minutes? Do what I need to do over 3 hours, then head back home in time for dinner.
It's an agenda to ignore facts. The reporter reported his experience and so did someone from this forum.
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LOL You know what I'll drive my gas guzzling Jeep around the community. 14K for a tricked out golf cart buys a lot of gas, and not having a golf cart taking up space in the garage allows me more room for tools and projects. FTR I won't buy a GM Bolt, sorry buddy!
I never claimed 85 was playing around.
Playing around is stuff like full throttle multi car passing when you don't have to do that.
Whooping on the throttle because it's fun vs driving a set speed on cruise control.
I can make any car fail to be economical.
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I love the entertainment piece.
At the end, we hear about how the cheapest tesla is $60k, and the entire roadtrip gas was only $3 a gallon?
In that case im off to buy myself a Ford Lightening Pro at $40k, wish me luck!
At the end, we hear about how the cheapest tesla is $60k, and the entire roadtrip gas was only $3 a gallon?
In that case im off to buy myself a Ford Lightening Pro at $40k, wish me luck!
No weather though, just barely above freezing.
The rest I understand. I guess if you are that type of person an EV isn't for you. The one good thing about an EV is the heat pump that will still clear moisture even below freezing.
But the Bolt is bigger than the Golf cart and can do more tricks!LOL You know what I'll drive my gas guzzling Jeep around the community. 14K for a tricked out golf cart buys a lot of gas, and not having a golf cart taking up space in the garage allows me more room for tools and projects. FTR I won't buy a GM Bolt, sorry buddy!
LOL can I do hole shots on a golf course with it?But the Bolt is bigger than the Golf cart and can do more tricks!
That's an awesome deal... FPL sounds great! Over here we have PG&E and pay $0.40/kwh for power LOL.
EV's aren't intended to be used for long trips. I mean in theory you can do it, but it's not practical. EV's are commuter vehicles and really should be advertised as such.
Now derate for needing heat and not driving 60mph.
Then add in time to get off highway find the charger plug in and actually start charging, disconnect, then the time to get back on highway.
its more than 1.5hours. All for more than the cost of gas at 2.24 in Ohio
Your 1.5hours is more unrealistic than anything in that video you must have an agenda stronger than fox news (/sarcasm)
This guy was simply not serious about trying to get a good transit time on this trip.
6 stops turned into 8 when it could have been done in 4.
https://www.theautopian.com/this-fo...d-trip-from-chicago-to-new-york-is-just-dumb/
6 stops turned into 8 when it could have been done in 4.
https://www.theautopian.com/this-fo...d-trip-from-chicago-to-new-york-is-just-dumb/
The fact he didn’t plug in overnight shows this a show piece.
Now derate for needing heat and not driving 60mph.
Then add in time to get off highway find the charger plug in and actually start charging, disconnect, then the time to get back on highway.
its more than 1.5hours. All for more than the cost of gas at 2.24 in Ohio
Your 1.5hours is more unrealistic than anything in that video you must have an agenda stronger than fox news (/sarcasm)
It isnt "MY" 1.5 hours. It's a well proven planning tool.
The tool compensates for heat.
Supercharger are always right off the highway and that time is included.
ABRP is typically pretty good an even a bit conservative.
Do you have any third party data or info to look at to make your determination? Or like trip experience?
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yup he chose a hotel with no charger despite there being many on the route.
