This is horrible, I didnt know it could be so bad. 50 to 69% less than mileage the car estimated. Reporter stated re-charge costs were as much as gasoline. But forget that, took the trip an enormous more amount of time vs a vehicle with the ICE
Tesla Christmas Road Trip - Battery needed frequent re-charging - Range Estimates were 50% to 69% off
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As an owner, I can tell you those numbers don't make sense. The guy does not even know how to use the car, as shown by the key card fiasco. He seems to be charging when the battery is pretty full, which is slow. The time to charge is when the battery is low coupled with a bio break, food, etc. The only reason to charge after 50 some miles is if there was not a charger withing 200 miles or whatever, and Tesla would avoid routing you that way.
Puff piece at best.
Puff piece at best.
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Oh well..............
Yeah, facts are good, these are indisputable. People in some parts of the country dont understand. Here in land of the free, we take road trips, its easy, stress free, more easy then flying, hop on the interstate, go as fast as you want, no traffic. Cheap gas too!
Long Island, second car, absolutely if you want an EV that doesnt do road trips but not primary. I know Long Island you are more tempted to fly because of the Belt Parkway and Bridges *LOL*
I have been re-thinking and most likely gas will be a new second car because I didnt know about the EV battery drain (until this forum) for a car that might sit around in the driveway a week or two. Time will tell.
I have time, not in the market but was tempted because of you helping to pay for a new EV car for my wife
It's also Fox...
and factual data, to suggest not is silly and agenda based, not worth a conversation.It's also Fox...
I agree. Maybe if I end up in a retirement community I'll get a golf cart and I'll go electric for that, that's the only chance though. My wife wants no part of an electric car, there's something else we agree on!!Yeah, facts are good, these are indisputable. People in some parts of the country dont understand. Here in land of the free, we take road trips, its easy, stress free, more easy then flying, hop on the interstate, go as fast as you want, no traffic.
Long Island, second car, absolutely if you want an EV but not primary that doesnt do road trips. Same here, though I have been re-thinking and most likely gas will be a new second car because I didnt know about the EV battery drain (until this forum) for a car that might sit around in the driveway a week or two.
I have time, not in the market but was tempted because of you helping to pay for a new EV car for my wife
There is nothing factual about that propaganda piece. It was made with the intent to push a narrative which is what any & all major news outfits do.
To suggest otherwise is not worth a conversation.
I'm not even going to bother watching the video, your comment tells me everything I need to know about it.
Using an EV the most efficient, sensible way may require an adjustment to thinking in terms of how and when you "fill up". If you can't do that, you shouldn't drive one.
What's the most efficient way to sum up EV ownership/use etc.?
1) They're very much suited to 96% of trips (aka local driving) in lots of places.
2) They have a history of local use going back decades. See where they worked, see where they failed, see how they failed.
3) EVs are a political hot potato. Expect more EV reports coupled with snide political commentary this year.
4) Why in Heaven's name do we have to hear complaints regarding EVs inability to haul a 6 horse trailer from Texas to Canada?
5) Why are these things advertised as a panacea for all things bad?
6) Why do some people react to them as if forced to marry a kangaroo?
7) How come these things weren't crafted into small, local delivery vehicles? The chargers for which could be part of business' buildings.
I'll bet very few mechanical things are absolutely worthless. One trouble is that vehicles are still marketed to our glands.
8) Also, as a distressing trait, many seem happier saying nasty, sweeping, resentful , stupid things as opposed to weighing facts and situations and applications. Then this noise is woven into political rhetoric.
Shame on the industry for making ridiculously fast super cars with this technology as opposed to more universally usable vehicles.
Also, their advertising never contains one shred of educational value. Remember, advertising self-proclaims itself as being educational to the consumer.
Time for some real, big-picture truth.
EX: "The used car you've always sought, the one driven by an old lady only on Sundays, can be an EV!"
It seems people are willing to be stupid sometimes.
1) They're very much suited to 96% of trips (aka local driving) in lots of places.
2) They have a history of local use going back decades. See where they worked, see where they failed, see how they failed.
3) EVs are a political hot potato. Expect more EV reports coupled with snide political commentary this year.
4) Why in Heaven's name do we have to hear complaints regarding EVs inability to haul a 6 horse trailer from Texas to Canada?
5) Why are these things advertised as a panacea for all things bad?
6) Why do some people react to them as if forced to marry a kangaroo?
7) How come these things weren't crafted into small, local delivery vehicles? The chargers for which could be part of business' buildings.
I'll bet very few mechanical things are absolutely worthless. One trouble is that vehicles are still marketed to our glands.
8) Also, as a distressing trait, many seem happier saying nasty, sweeping, resentful , stupid things as opposed to weighing facts and situations and applications. Then this noise is woven into political rhetoric.
Shame on the industry for making ridiculously fast super cars with this technology as opposed to more universally usable vehicles.
Also, their advertising never contains one shred of educational value. Remember, advertising self-proclaims itself as being educational to the consumer.
Time for some real, big-picture truth.
EX: "The used car you've always sought, the one driven by an old lady only on Sundays, can be an EV!"
It seems people are willing to be stupid sometimes.
Range aside, Sue and I made two trips last summer to Zion, the best national park in the country in our opinion.
We make the drive in one fairly easy 8 hour day, about 575 miles. One fuel stop of maybe 10 minutes. This would be impossible with an EV.
And secondly - and I wish I'd taken pictures - during both trips in the blazing hot mid day sun in the Mojave desert we saw Teslas cruising at 50mph in the right lane with all their windows open.
Scott
We make the drive in one fairly easy 8 hour day, about 575 miles. One fuel stop of maybe 10 minutes. This would be impossible with an EV.
And secondly - and I wish I'd taken pictures - during both trips in the blazing hot mid day sun in the Mojave desert we saw Teslas cruising at 50mph in the right lane with all their windows open.
Scott
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My friend has a gas powered golf cart at his house in FL.I agree. Maybe if I end up in a retirement community I'll get a golf cart and I'll go electric for that, that's the only chance though. My wife wants no part of an electric car, there's something else we agree on!!
Yeah that's what happens when you run the heater.
Even better!!
You can keep your EV, I will keep my ICE, and in a perfect world we will both be left alone. Unfortunately my side seems to be taking all the hits and trying to be forced into these things. Call it what you want, but that is absolutely wrong. The free market should be allowed to pick winners and losers all by itself without help.
Now this is in general not just EVs. I've seen this used across hybrids and just plain ol ICEs.
The amount of people blasting the heat, with no weather so defrost isn't needed, wearing a thick winter coat with usually a window halfway down with heat waves pouring out of it baffles me. Why not just turn the heat down?
I watched the video. It's not horrible, as he clearly admits he does not know what he is doing. Some experience here would help.
I'd not expect a modestly priced EV with a modestly sized battery, to "shine" on a road trip.
By now ALL of us here know it takes longer to make an EV road trip, than in a typical gas car. This video highlights that.
A friend has an EV6 GT. He pays FPL (Florida Power + Light) a flat $31 per month for unlimited home level 2 charging. He commutes a fair distance and is spending $500 less per month on "fuel" vs. his F150. Hard to beat that performance to price ratio. Awesome car, awesome fuel costs.
https://www.fpl.com/electric-vehicl...mxZ4Z2QvIhqEam4QpihoCbZQQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
I'd not expect a modestly priced EV with a modestly sized battery, to "shine" on a road trip.
By now ALL of us here know it takes longer to make an EV road trip, than in a typical gas car. This video highlights that.
A friend has an EV6 GT. He pays FPL (Florida Power + Light) a flat $31 per month for unlimited home level 2 charging. He commutes a fair distance and is spending $500 less per month on "fuel" vs. his F150. Hard to beat that performance to price ratio. Awesome car, awesome fuel costs.
https://www.fpl.com/electric-vehicl...mxZ4Z2QvIhqEam4QpihoCbZQQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
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I still wouldnt mind an inexpensive one for a second vehicle.. but I need 1 that can tow 150miles without refueling.
The facts were not exaggerated in that video.. Driving one in the winter from chicago to NY is close to the worst case scenario possible.
right now with $2.24 gas electric car has no $$$ savings. Diesel though is $3.79
PHEV still makes more sense than BEV for my use and area.(at least as a do it all vehicle)
If I lived in PA I might pickup a Hornet. Their PHEV model is over 10k off in PA.. in ohio $1500 off... no one can explain that... so far.
Weighs less than my 2019 cherokee did, more hp and much more torque. 33k sounds interesting 42k not so much.
The only thing I question(well major thing) is why a 11gallon gas tank. the electric only range is about 30miles... shoulda been at least 13gal.
The facts were not exaggerated in that video.. Driving one in the winter from chicago to NY is close to the worst case scenario possible.
right now with $2.24 gas electric car has no $$$ savings. Diesel though is $3.79
PHEV still makes more sense than BEV for my use and area.(at least as a do it all vehicle)
If I lived in PA I might pickup a Hornet. Their PHEV model is over 10k off in PA.. in ohio $1500 off... no one can explain that... so far.
Weighs less than my 2019 cherokee did, more hp and much more torque. 33k sounds interesting 42k not so much.
The only thing I question(well major thing) is why a 11gallon gas tank. the electric only range is about 30miles... shoulda been at least 13gal.
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