Tesla at 1.2M miles, only took 14 motors & 4 batteries.

[GR_CoB]

Title speaks for itself. Impressive, yet not impressive at the same time. One would think that the motor issue would be fixed by 3rd, 4th, or 5th replacement max... I still strongly agree with Toyota that Hybrids are the ultimate answer.

https://www.vehiclesuggest.com/tesl...bJ4bIX7PjsHkcynxJA_aem_rhZ3BzC3cOdN3W06-kC6sA

 

[Torrid]

It's an early car that was before they fixed the motor issues. Basic math shows the battery hits its metrics. Even then, show me the amount of ICE cars on the road with 300k miles. It's not many.

 

[alarmguy]

It's an early car that was before they fixed the motor issues. Basic math shows the battery hits its metrics. Even then, show me the amount of ICE cars on the road with 300k miles. It's not many.

The guy replaced 14 motors and 4 batteries. I don’t see anything special at all.

It’s not many Americans that will bother when they can buy a new Tesla. In this case he could have bought a few new Teslas instead of paying repair costs. Which for some reason I don’t see published. I’m sure he kept records. Easily over $100,000 to $150,000 in repairs I would guess, maybe more, why no records?

I don’t know why the ICE reference, just like EVs most don’t bother.

 

[Vercingetorix]

Who know’s how good the refurbished motors are?
“Motor replacement can cost $6,000 but he said he got many of his Model S motors replaced either under warranty or with refurbished ones.”

 

[demarpaint]

The guy replaced 14 motors and 4 batteries. I don’t see anything special.
It’s not many that will bother when they can buy a new Tesla.
I don’t know why the ICE reference, just like EVs most don’t bother but there are many.

I'm not impressed either. 14 motors seems like a lot of motors to me. Even 7 motors seems like a lot, but hey if the guy in the video is a happy camper that's all that matters.

 

[Jokester]

Would be interesting to know how much electricity/cost was involved to reach that point as well, which is something often not mentioned with the EV vs ICE comparison.

 

[Snagglefoot]

Thanks for the post. I guess it could be an early design. The motors, on average, could not make it to 100,000 miles. That would be a fail for an ICE vehicle.

 

[joekingcorvette]

Any vehicle can hit a million miles if you keep on repairing it. I agree the Toyota hybrids are hard to beat for mileage and reliability.

 

[Egg_Head]

Irv Gordon is rolling in his grave.

 

[Trav]

Plenty of MB diesels have gone a million plus on the original engine with ease. Putting a motor in every 90K tells me the cars motor/engine is a piece of trash.

https://www.motor1.com/news/725430/mercedes-benz-million-mile-cars/

 

[dnewton3]

Parsed from the article:

Hansjörg von Gemmingen-Hornberg’s Tesla Model S, a 2014 P85 variant, has become the talk of the town as it reached a staggering 1.18 million miles on its odometer. To put this into perspective, that’s an average of approximately 131,000 miles per year.

Motor replacement can cost $6,000 but he said he got many of his Model S motors replaced either under warranty or with refurbished ones.

On a brighter note, the big battery in the car has held up much better. They’ve only had to replace it three times, and each battery lasted around 300,000 miles.

Considering the new battery pack costs anywhere between $13,000 to$20,000, the estimated total expense including motor and battery might be anywhere between $40,000 to $60,000.

So a 10 year old car needed 14 motors (some warrantied; some not) and four battery packs (one OE; three replacements) to drive 131k miles per year.

Further, the "estimated total expense" in the article seems low to me. And why can't this owner tell the author exactly what he spent? I'm sure the owner knows how many motors and batteries he paid for ... are they hiding something? Because to me, it's more cost than they let on. Three batteries (avg approximate cost $15k) and 7 batteries (half of those replaced at $6k each) is $87k !!!! Way more than their estimate.

If this were an ICE vehicle, no one would be dancing around with joy about spending almost $90k in 10 years. You can buy a couple of moderate ICE replacement cars for that cost. Not to mention that there's got to be some major inconvenience of having 17 major component replacements (14 motors and 3 batteries).

Color me unimpressed.

 

[BISCUT]

A lot of data missing. The feat isn't impressive with all the motor replacements. Moves the needle nowhere, IMO.

 

[Astro14]

Not impressive. A new motor every 90,000 miles?

We trash Hyundai/Kia for their ICE motors blowing up that early, but it’s cool if it’s an electric motor?

The battery life is more in line with expectations - sure, it wears out every 250,000 - 300,000 - but that is reasonable. I would be relatively pleased with that life.

What’s more interesting, and not really covered - how is the interior? Suspension? The TUV is strict, if the suspension held up over that life, that’s very impressive.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Not really sure what to think. Over 100k miles/yr in a passenger car in Germany. That's an insane when you realize that it's not uncommon for an ICE to require an overhaul at 100k-150k miles because of the speeds allowed on the autobahn. We're also talking incredibly high discharge rates on the battery and we don't know how often he was using fast charging, but my guess is a lot.

This is impressive.

 

[ME_Andy]

The batteries lasting 300k miles each is pretty impressive. Obviously not the motors, but those have been redesigned for a long time now.

 

[supton]

If the motor replacement was $1k every 100k, well that is around timing belt replacement cost, and while not awesome then at least livable. But at $6k… fail.

Battery life seems in the range of expected, BUT at $15k each time, eh.

The cost of being an early adopter or is this just a more expensive way to motor around? Still seems to me to be an expensive toy for those who can afford it. Maybe later models (or other makes) will do better.

 

[zzyzzx]

Any vehicle can last as long as you are willing to spend money on it. Article fails to mention the total amount spent, or why he was driving so much.

 

[TazzySpazzy]

Whether it's ICE or EV I am glad to see someone who chose to fix parts instead of replace the whole vehicle. Aside from the purely financial aspect of things there is the raw material and construction "environmental cost" of building something new from scratch. And the overall value of recycling seems hard to pin down.

 

[andrew_j]

My curiosity is when first motor and battery were replaced not useless average. It does not say what battery or motor used to replace with .

 

[Revving2Redline]

Still on my original motor and cvt transmission and tires have almost 100k miles on these 19" Yokohama 96V rated, think people looking at electric cars going forward should be "forewarned" instead. Where does all that waste go? How long do the tires last?