quote:Generally calcium and/or magnesium is used for alkalinity and detergency. The synthetics tend to have a higher amount of these compared to dino oil. They also don't degrade and breaakdown as much, leading to cleaner engine.
Originally posted by buster: I always have heard synthetics keep your engine clean and was wondering what actually is in the oil that does this? Thanks
quote:I've been using M1 for more than 10 years in my '88 Civic. The engine is pretty clean but it is not "like new". I'm going to switch to Redline in the spring to see if the higher ester content cleans things up any.
Originally posted by buster: Are there any that have more cleaning abilities then others? I assume M1 and Amsoil have very generous amounts, or most all synthetics anyway. I know a few people who have 100's of thousand miles on there cars/trucks and claim there engines are still clean as new using synthetics.
quote:You only have a few months to wait to be able to use a HD dino oil for a interval when the temps warm up a bit to run the heavy grade,,think Delvac 1300S or some Chevron Delo 400 when it warms up,,patience is a virtue I don't think your motor is in such bad need of cleaning at all and it should make it to spring easily.
Originally posted by buster: Amsoil's better cleaning abilities is making me want to stick with it rather then switch back to M1 which is mostly PAO. But how is there SS 0w-40 in terms of cleaning? I might even try Delvac...good cleaning and would get me through the winter without changing it. That is after I do an analysis on M1 0w-30.
quote:My Royal Purple virgin sample showed only 11ppm of magnesium, and Mobil 1's latest formula only has about 20ppm. Quite a change from TriSynthetic, which used to have over 1000ppm of magnesium. I wonder why they made such a drastic change there?
Originally posted by TooSlick: Organic esters ...and the higher concentration the more the stuff cleans. Every oil on the market contains calcium and magnesium, BTW. TooSlick
quote:No not at all. The SS uses Orgnano Esters as double duty type additives,,they clean,disperse and are barrier additives. The Supersyn seems far removed from Amsoil and the old Trysyn oils,,it is a much different formulation approach than those two,, much different. It is a great OTC oil that is much better in all ways then the old Trysyn,,,why go to the trouble of it all for Mobil if it was not a better formulation ? If Mobil if not have to compete in pricing they could even make it better but for right now it is more oil than most motors need,,,some of these factory motors are pure junk imo these days,, In my ad campaign for President I will lead with " no more junk motors! "
Originally posted by buster: So is the new SS not as good at cleaning compared to the Trisynthetic and other synthetics like Amsoil?