So are you saying to use a higher viscosity oil? My truck is a Dodge Ram which requires 5W 20, If I were to continue to use synthetics should I bump it up to a 10W 30, will it be equivalent to a 5W 20 dino?
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Find and use a "thick' 5w20. Dodge doesnt want you to put 30wt in your engine given the extensive cyl mgmt systems in there. Of course Castrol Edge 5w30 could be considered a "thick" 20wt, but you're not ready for syn yet. I would haunt the dodge truck and hemi forums and see what they like.
What do you mean I am not ready for synthetic?
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Originally Posted By: renos09ram
What do you mean I am not ready for synthetic?
You want the truth?
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!
What do you mean I am not ready for synthetic?
You want the truth?
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Synthetics definitely seem thinner than their dino cousins.
What, at room temp? Otherwise I have a hard time telling the difference between a 10cSt fluid from a 10.5cSt fluid (or whatever visc) when actually in use at op temp
Even though I actually had one of the Brookfield bros. son's as a teenage friend, I still can't figure visc without a viscometer.
Synthetics definitely seem thinner than their dino cousins.
What, at room temp? Otherwise I have a hard time telling the difference between a 10cSt fluid from a 10.5cSt fluid (or whatever visc) when actually in use at op temp
Even though I actually had one of the Brookfield bros. son's as a teenage friend, I still can't figure visc without a viscometer.
My tappet noise is louder on Maxlife syn blend 10W-40 versus the PYB 10W-40 that was in it before.
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There is some truth to some acoustic properties of various like weight oils of different base stocks (or so we've been led to believe)..but xx.xx cSt is still xx.xx cSt.
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
My tappet noise is louder on Maxlife syn blend 10W-40 versus the PYB 10W-40 that was in it before.
Have you tried using the recommended 30-grade in your car yet? Maybe that would help with some of the noise, too... I never had any "tappet noise" in my old '96 Cavalier.
My tappet noise is louder on Maxlife syn blend 10W-40 versus the PYB 10W-40 that was in it before.
Have you tried using the recommended 30-grade in your car yet? Maybe that would help with some of the noise, too... I never had any "tappet noise" in my old '96 Cavalier.
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Originally Posted By: rudolphna
My tappet noise is louder on Maxlife syn blend 10W-40 versus the PYB 10W-40 that was in it before.
Have you tried using the recommended 30-grade in your car yet? Maybe that would help with some of the noise, too... I never had any "tappet noise" in my old '96 Cavalier.
Not yet. I'm trying to ride this oil out to 3,000 miles or so. Already about halfway there.
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
My tappet noise is louder on Maxlife syn blend 10W-40 versus the PYB 10W-40 that was in it before.
Have you tried using the recommended 30-grade in your car yet? Maybe that would help with some of the noise, too... I never had any "tappet noise" in my old '96 Cavalier.
Not yet. I'm trying to ride this oil out to 3,000 miles or so. Already about halfway there.
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Every car I`ve ever owned had run more quiet and responsive on dino. Plus every UOA I`ve seen here and on other sites always have way more wear metals on synth vs dino. I`ll never use synth in an engine anymore.
BUT,manual trannies and rear diffs run much better on synths over dinos. That`s where imo synthetics belong,in trannies and rear diffs.
WRONG...rear diffs like dino better...Currie Enterprises requires dino for their high-end rear diff warranties...syn in manual trannies only unless it is needed for extended drain intervals
Every car I`ve ever owned had run more quiet and responsive on dino. Plus every UOA I`ve seen here and on other sites always have way more wear metals on synth vs dino. I`ll never use synth in an engine anymore.
BUT,manual trannies and rear diffs run much better on synths over dinos. That`s where imo synthetics belong,in trannies and rear diffs.
WRONG...rear diffs like dino better...Currie Enterprises requires dino for their high-end rear diff warranties...syn in manual trannies only unless it is needed for extended drain intervals
No difference to my ears overall. Although I think I've quieted down ever so slightly in the top end of my car on syn, presumably because its doing some damage control.. (Pennz Plat cleaning up)
Originally Posted By: FastSUV
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Every car I`ve ever owned had run more quiet and responsive on dino. Plus every UOA I`ve seen here and on other sites always have way more wear metals on synth vs dino. I`ll never use synth in an engine anymore.
BUT,manual trannies and rear diffs run much better on synths over dinos. That`s where imo synthetics belong,in trannies and rear diffs.
WRONG...rear diffs like dino better...Currie Enterprises requires dino for their high-end rear diff warranties...syn in manual trannies only unless it is needed for extended drain intervals
That's Currie Enterprises, and who knows what synthetic gear lube turned them off of synthetic gear lubes.
All I know is that I've put a LOT of miles on synthetic gear lubes and have never once had a rear diff failure. My current rear axle has been though 3 manual tranyns too.
I've got a built Ford 8.8" in my that does great on RedLine 75W-90. Many new cars come factory filled with synthetic gear lubes, are run 150,000+ miles on the factory fill and still usually never have a problem unless they developed a leak at some point.
Simply put, Currie is crazy.
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Every car I`ve ever owned had run more quiet and responsive on dino. Plus every UOA I`ve seen here and on other sites always have way more wear metals on synth vs dino. I`ll never use synth in an engine anymore.
BUT,manual trannies and rear diffs run much better on synths over dinos. That`s where imo synthetics belong,in trannies and rear diffs.
WRONG...rear diffs like dino better...Currie Enterprises requires dino for their high-end rear diff warranties...syn in manual trannies only unless it is needed for extended drain intervals
That's Currie Enterprises, and who knows what synthetic gear lube turned them off of synthetic gear lubes.
All I know is that I've put a LOT of miles on synthetic gear lubes and have never once had a rear diff failure. My current rear axle has been though 3 manual tranyns too.
I've got a built Ford 8.8" in my that does great on RedLine 75W-90. Many new cars come factory filled with synthetic gear lubes, are run 150,000+ miles on the factory fill and still usually never have a problem unless they developed a leak at some point.
Simply put, Currie is crazy.
Originally Posted By: renos09ram
What do you mean I am not ready for synthetic?
Oh, just that break-in Bologna. You could go faux-syn at 5K then when you hit 10K do a cleanup and Go Amsoil 1x year if appropriate. Being a wimp, I prob do summer-winter 2x/annum OCI's if I was doing long drain intervals. Sells more oil 2
What do you mean I am not ready for synthetic?
Oh, just that break-in Bologna. You could go faux-syn at 5K then when you hit 10K do a cleanup and Go Amsoil 1x year if appropriate. Being a wimp, I prob do summer-winter 2x/annum OCI's if I was doing long drain intervals. Sells more oil 2
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Originally Posted By: FastSUV
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Every car I`ve ever owned had run more quiet and responsive on dino. Plus every UOA I`ve seen here and on other sites always have way more wear metals on synth vs dino. I`ll never use synth in an engine anymore.
BUT,manual trannies and rear diffs run much better on synths over dinos. That`s where imo synthetics belong,in trannies and rear diffs.
WRONG...rear diffs like dino better...Currie Enterprises requires dino for their high-end rear diff warranties...syn in manual trannies only unless it is needed for extended drain intervals
Man I could never ever imagine running dino juice in any gear application.
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Every car I`ve ever owned had run more quiet and responsive on dino. Plus every UOA I`ve seen here and on other sites always have way more wear metals on synth vs dino. I`ll never use synth in an engine anymore.
BUT,manual trannies and rear diffs run much better on synths over dinos. That`s where imo synthetics belong,in trannies and rear diffs.
WRONG...rear diffs like dino better...Currie Enterprises requires dino for their high-end rear diff warranties...syn in manual trannies only unless it is needed for extended drain intervals
Man I could never ever imagine running dino juice in any gear application.
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Originally Posted By: FastSUV
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Every car I`ve ever owned had run more quiet and responsive on dino. Plus every UOA I`ve seen here and on other sites always have way more wear metals on synth vs dino. I`ll never use synth in an engine anymore.
BUT,manual trannies and rear diffs run much better on synths over dinos. That`s where imo synthetics belong,in trannies and rear diffs.
WRONG...rear diffs like dino better...Currie Enterprises requires dino for their high-end rear diff warranties...syn in manual trannies only unless it is needed for extended drain intervals
..am I looking in the wrong place?
http://www.currieenterprises.com/cestore/termsandconditions.aspx
We had a thread a bit back in regard to the Eaton TrueTrac (iirc) that some vendor alleged should not use synthetic fluid due to "too much slipperiness" ..but I call bunk.
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Every car I`ve ever owned had run more quiet and responsive on dino. Plus every UOA I`ve seen here and on other sites always have way more wear metals on synth vs dino. I`ll never use synth in an engine anymore.
BUT,manual trannies and rear diffs run much better on synths over dinos. That`s where imo synthetics belong,in trannies and rear diffs.
WRONG...rear diffs like dino better...Currie Enterprises requires dino for their high-end rear diff warranties...syn in manual trannies only unless it is needed for extended drain intervals
..am I looking in the wrong place?
http://www.currieenterprises.com/cestore/termsandconditions.aspx
We had a thread a bit back in regard to the Eaton TrueTrac (iirc) that some vendor alleged should not use synthetic fluid due to "too much slipperiness" ..but I call bunk.
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Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Originally Posted By: FastSUV
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Every car I`ve ever owned had run more quiet and responsive on dino. Plus every UOA I`ve seen here and on other sites always have way more wear metals on synth vs dino. I`ll never use synth in an engine anymore.
BUT,manual trannies and rear diffs run much better on synths over dinos. That`s where imo synthetics belong,in trannies and rear diffs.
WRONG...rear diffs like dino better...Currie Enterprises requires dino for their high-end rear diff warranties...syn in manual trannies only unless it is needed for extended drain intervals
..am I looking in the wrong place?
http://www.currieenterprises.com/cestore/termsandconditions.aspx
We had a thread a bit back in regard to the Eaton TrueTrac (iirc) that some vendor alleged should not use synthetic fluid due to "too much slipperiness" ..but I call bunk.
^^Big 2nd Gary!
Originally Posted By: FastSUV
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Every car I`ve ever owned had run more quiet and responsive on dino. Plus every UOA I`ve seen here and on other sites always have way more wear metals on synth vs dino. I`ll never use synth in an engine anymore.
BUT,manual trannies and rear diffs run much better on synths over dinos. That`s where imo synthetics belong,in trannies and rear diffs.
WRONG...rear diffs like dino better...Currie Enterprises requires dino for their high-end rear diff warranties...syn in manual trannies only unless it is needed for extended drain intervals
..am I looking in the wrong place?
http://www.currieenterprises.com/cestore/termsandconditions.aspx
We had a thread a bit back in regard to the Eaton TrueTrac (iirc) that some vendor alleged should not use synthetic fluid due to "too much slipperiness" ..but I call bunk.
^^Big 2nd Gary!
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Originally Posted By: renos09ram
So are you saying to use a higher viscosity oil? My truck is a Dodge Ram which requires 5W 20, If I were to continue to use synthetics should I bump it up to a 10W 30, will it be equivalent to a 5W 20 dino?
My 2004 reqires 5w 30. I wonder what changed?
So are you saying to use a higher viscosity oil? My truck is a Dodge Ram which requires 5W 20, If I were to continue to use synthetics should I bump it up to a 10W 30, will it be equivalent to a 5W 20 dino?
My 2004 reqires 5w 30. I wonder what changed?
Interestingly, the Mobil 1 0w-30 and EP 5w30 makes my engine quiet. But the M1 5w30 makes the engine quite noisy when the ambient temperature is hot.
THe type of base stock does not matter the hths and additive package are what determines the most. The first time I put a 0W30 in my engine was load I added some additional addtives not viscosity improvers either just aw and ep additives in an ester carrier base and the noise droped in 1/2 almost instantly. Now 2 onces of additive is not enough to drasticly change the viscoity but it was a drastic increase ina dditives. You know what it was not M1 OW30 It was Castrol Syntec 0W30 that I got on clearance at Walmart.
Originally Posted By: kr_bitog
Interestingly, the Mobil 1 0w-30 and EP 5w30 makes my engine quiet. But the M1 5w30 makes the engine quite noisy when the ambient temperature is hot.
I THINK because those two are Group IV.
Interestingly, the Mobil 1 0w-30 and EP 5w30 makes my engine quiet. But the M1 5w30 makes the engine quite noisy when the ambient temperature is hot.
I THINK because those two are Group IV.
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