SUPERTECH synthetic users, thoughts?

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Originally Posted By: Trav
Thats is my point. The uncertainty of the product and the fact the brand names are sold in the US at fire sale prices anyway makes Super Tech very unappealing to me as does any "house brand".


Originally Posted By: demarpaint
I shop at Walmart. To be honestly with all the oil deals out there, with a little smart shopping and oil hoarding there's never a need for me to even consider Super Tech oil.


I agree, if I can buy brand names synthetic for less than $2-3/qt when it was on sale with/without rebate, why bother with Super Tech ? I do shop at Walmart too, but rarely buying oil. I did buy Supertech: Brake fluid.
 
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Originally Posted By: Trav
Thats is my point. The uncertainty of the product and the fact the brand names are sold in the US at fire sale prices anyway makes Super Tech very unappealing to me as does any "house brand".


Originally Posted By: demarpaint
I shop at Walmart. To be honestly with all the oil deals out there, with a little smart shopping and oil hoarding there's never a need for me to even consider Super Tech oil.


I agree, if I can buy brand names synthetic for less than $2-3/qt when it was on sale with/without rebate, why bother with Super Tech ? I do shop at Walmart too, but rarely buying oil. I did buy Supertech: Brake fluid.


Glad we agree. I bought Super Tech type F ATF for my E-150 power steering pump, no problems to report. The price was right and it was looking me right in the eye last time I was at Walmart looking for gasoline jugs.
 
Luckily, I dont have to meet recommendations like dexos1 or HTO-06, only SM/GF-4 in a 5/10w30. SuperTech has that covered and then some.

Thanks for all the interesting views.
 
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Originally Posted By: rdalek
Does this help?

http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/Marchsyntheticsallfinal.html

ST is listed there and it was tested. Link directly to ST results.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/supertech.htm


Is that the Warren or Citgo? If it was Warren how does the average low information shopper know what is in the next jug?

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/supertech-new-refiner.211234/

Which brings this full circle when i said.
Originally Posted By: Trav
The uncertainty of the product and the fact the brand names are sold in the US at fire sale prices anyway makes ST very unappealing to me as does any "house brand.


Some posters just chalk up my opinion as simple Walmart hate, my opinion is not based on something so shallow. Does that mean i hate NAPA, AZ, AA or any other company with a house brand? No!
 
Originally Posted By: Trav

Some posters just chalk up my opinion as simple Walmart hate, my opinion is not based on something so shallow. Does that mean i hate NAPA, AZ, AA or any other company with a house brand? No!


I dunno....somebody got a lot of pleasure posting about them pulling out of Germany, despite the fact it happened years ago.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/3111317/
 
Spec is a spec is a...spec. Citgo must meet the same. If they don't according to pqia, and the bottom of the bottle indicates a Citgo product, you can move on to a different brand.
 
Originally Posted By: Kruse
Originally Posted By: Trav

Some posters just chalk up my opinion as simple Walmart hate, my opinion is not based on something so shallow. Does that mean i hate NAPA, AZ, AA or any other company with a house brand? No!


I dunno....somebody got a lot of pleasure posting about them pulling out of Germany, despite the fact it happened years ago.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/3111317/


Oh i hate Walmart with a passion i never denied that but i don't hate the companies who make the products being sold by them.
Change ST to Costal or any other house brand and i feel exactly the same way.
 
Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: rdalek
Does this help?

http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/Marchsyntheticsallfinal.html

Super Tech is listed there and it was tested. Link directly to Super Tech results.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/supertech.htm


Is that the Warren or Citgo? If it was Warren how does the average low information shopper know what is in the next jug?

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/supertech-new-refiner.211234/


Does the fact that they MAY change to Citgo mean that they change the specs? If Citgo starts making Super Tech oil and is given the same specs that Warren has, the oil will be the same right? For all we know, Citgo may even be better. They could not only meet the specs but exceed them. Then what?

Actually, what if Castrol, Mobil or anyone else all of a sudden changes their supplier of base stock or even their additives. What then? Let's keep in mind, Castrol, Citgo, Warren and others don't MAKE oil. They just buy the base product from a refiner that pulled it out of the ground, do some magic that none of us likely know about and add stuff to it. Any of them can change something in their oil and not say anything about it. I say that and I use Castrol myself. I don't know that Castrol uses the same company they got their base stock from when I started using Castrol. The same can be said for the additives as well. Odds are, only Castrol knows that info. We would all be equally clueless. The same thing being claimed about Super Tech can be claimed about any company. Any company can change suppliers and not say a word about it.

Welcome to the world of clueless.
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I could care less what anyone uses, its not my money. I voiced my opinion and if someone doesn't like it thats their problem.
Nothing posted in this or any ST thread will ever change my mind and thats my Prerogative.

This thread appear to be going nowhere so i'm out.
 
Hey, uh, sorry for randomly jumping in 5 pages in guys, but... I was just reading it for my own sake, not planning on posting til I saw this:

Originally Posted By: old1
My question is this: if you had a choice of Pennzoil Conventional or warren Super Tech synthetic, or MAG1synthetic, all at approximately the same price, which would be preferred. Non of which would be run more than 5000 miles OCI


And then's when I had the itch to chime in. Warren Performance Products, AKA WPP, makes both Super Tech AND MAG1! However, Mag1 is WPP's top-of-the-line oil, and quite frankly, Mag1 is an amazing company in and of itself. Aside from it being Super Tech's big brother, Mag1 has been regarded quite highly on BITOG. I've not seen any negatives (not saying there are none) about Mag1 anywhere. They've been known to quickly respond (via human's sending very informative and polite email responses) with any info asked. ALL of their data sheets can be found on their website.

Obviously, therefore, I choose Mag1 in that matchup, hands down. And yes, I have used it before (successfully).
 
Originally Posted By: Trav
Okay so no spec sheet, it doesn't meet manufacturers approvals for newer GM and many other cars. It doesn't matter how cheap it is if it doesn't meet the spec and Dexos is the new spec for GM.

Dexos is a spec not just a licence!
GM said:
That's why GM Powertrain engineers developed the dexos® engine oil specification


It is a license. Sheep.

Even GM says it.
http://www.centerforqa.com/gm/gm-dexos-home-page

You can meet Dexos's standards and not be Dexos licensed. The trick is that you have to pay GM for that little label otherwise GM ignores it. For example, initially Valvoline Synpower meets the spec but because they did not want to give GM money, they do not get that Dexos label. Eventually they bowed.

Just because the blender does not want to give GM bribe money does not mean the oils is "insufficient". Other WPP has made the Dexos label, just not ST specific. Since WPP oils all test out to be nearly identical, there is little concern about the product.

Originally Posted By: Trav
Oh i hate Walmart with a passion i never denied that but i don't hate the companies who make the products being sold by them.
Change ST to Costal or any other house brand and i feel exactly the same way.


Ahh, so if Mobil made Supertech, it would be "rubbish" correct? You don't care about the oil, just the label. (FYI Mobil has been a SuperTech conventional supplier)

Originally Posted By: Trav
I could care less what anyone uses, its not my money. I voiced my opinion and if someone doesn't like it thats their problem.
Nothing posted in this or any ST thread will ever change my mind and thats my Prerogative.

This thread appear to be going nowhere so i'm out.


Good, ignorance creating myths should be elsewhere. Try those pesky blogs about celebrities. You don't have to use it but it would be nice not to lead people down a path where a good product is smeared by ignorance.
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Originally Posted By: FutureDoc

Good, ignorance creating myths should be elsewhere. Try those pesky blogs about celebrities. You don't have to use it but it would be nice not to lead people down a path where a good product is smeared by ignorance.


I'll say. Kudos, FutureDoc, BITOG is no place for name hating. Trav, while I humbly respect everyone's right to their own opinion, you know better than to talk like that on BITOG. Having no reason except for its name to hate an oil, frankly, is just dumb. No offense, though, as I understand, really, I do. But, if you could just refrain from blurting it out here on BITOG as a reason to not buy it... Yah, that'd be great.
 
Originally Posted By: Trav
I could care less what anyone uses, its not my money. I voiced my opinion and if someone doesn't like it thats their problem.
Nothing posted in this or any ST thread will ever change my mind and thats my Prerogative.

This thread appear to be going nowhere so i'm out.


This is a oil forum, not some political or social commentary forum. The OP asked about a oil, not about the retailer and "your" personal opinion of the retailer.

The issue is not if people agree or disagree with your opinion, but how it actually relates to the fact at hand about the oil in question. Your commentary falls flat on actual factual relevance to the oil and is just your "Archie Bunker" grandstanding on the state of affairs and personal bias against the retailer.

We get it, you hate Wal-Mart. But once again, it is an oil forum and people like to here factual relevance to the topic at hand about oil.
 
Originally Posted By: wemay
Originally Posted By: daves87rs
....In A more advanced engine, like a Focus (DI), Traverse (DI), or something higher tech? You might want to go with the name brand..unless it is certed....like Dexos, for example..
And unless you are on the PQIA's poop list, I can't see anyone putting a sub par product out there.....


Hyundai's recommendation for its d.i. turbo's is much less stringent than those you mention (SM / GF-4 [no mention of blend or syn]). What they are strict about is oil change intervals, 3k severe or 5k normal.


My buddy has a Hyundai with the turbo...and while at the dealership, saw what happens if you decide to go long on dino...lucky for him, he runs mostly freeway, with some sort of synthetic in there....
 
Only this site could get this worked up over Walmart's oil...sheesh...

I'll end it here. Oil is oil. If it says SN, then it's an oil to put in your car (Unless told otherwise)...


Roger dodger I'm out......
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