SSO 30w@10k

[Firehawk409]

Well I am now at 10k/6months on my SSO30w. I checked my oil every fillup and noticed last night the level was a bit low. nothing dangerous but it dropped a notch. I plan on getting an oil analysis done and will pull a sample before adding any more oil to top it off. Is this normal for it to lose a bit of oil at that mileage? The car doesnt get driven aggressively, pretty much a commuter car. 20miles each way.

My amsoil preffered acct ends 12/31. I'm debating on if i should go a second round with SSO 30 or try out the 100% synthetic 20w. I know I should wait till i get the OA back but I'm wanting to order more oil now and not have to pay the preffered acct fee again. Try to get two oil purchases in the 6month period.

Do you get better results from using an oil for two cycles? Being there was some residue of the other oil that was in there previously?

 

[StevieC]

FWIW... When I sent my sample into Terry he told me that the ASL performs better in most cars and that the SSO 0w30 isn't as good as the ASL in most applications, especially if there is even minute traces of fuel which causes it to thin out... I have 3 gallons which I'm going to use up, but then it's ASL all the way.

 

[HTSS_TR]

A notch on dipstick is about 1/4 quart and that is nothing for 6k miles. You should try SSO 30 one more OC, that way you will know how good it is on second OC.

 

[buster]

Originally Posted By: StevieC
FWIW... When I sent my sample into Terry he told me that the ASL performs better in most cars and that the SSO 0w30 isn't as good as the ASL in most applications, especially if there is even minute traces of fuel which causes it to thin out... I have 3 gallons which I'm going to use up, but then it's ASL all the way.


Really..

 

[StevieC]

Seriously... No [censored].

 

[Firehawk409]

Originally Posted By: StevieC
FWIW... When I sent my sample into Terry he told me that the ASL performs better in most cars and that the SSO 0w30 isn't as good as the ASL in most applications, especially if there is even minute traces of fuel which causes it to thin out... I have 3 gallons which I'm going to use up, but then it's ASL all the way.


Well I have heard that honda engines are good at getting a bit of fuel in the oil. What kind of car are you using the SSO? I chose the SSO mainly because amsoil spec'ed it at 35K, but im only avg about 20k a year. Figured the SSO would give me more wiggle room being the ASL is at 25k. Maybe thats not the right way to think of it, but that's just how I did.



Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
A notch on dipstick is about 1/4 quart and that is nothing for 6k miles. You should try SSO 30 one more OC, that way you will know how good it is on second OC.


It's actually 10k at 6months. I'm not sure where I heard or read it, might have been on here, but someone said a second go round on the same oil will show you a better reading of how good or bad it performed.

 

[StevieC]

I'm using it in a 2.7 Liter V6 Hyundai Santa Fe. I drive mainly Highway miles and my engine is hot for about 8-10 hours a day so fuel dilution isn't a problem for me, but I'm told that these engines driven in the city or short trips are known for it.

I never go by the bottle, while I trust Amsoil makes a good product, I always go by a UOA because every engine, driving pattern and stress on the oil is different.

SSO is a great oil, but it's not for all applications and thins out really quickly I'm told when it comes into contact with fuel so I'm gonna use it since I have it anyways but I will run shorter intervals with it and then only use ASL.

I wish they would come out with a 0w40/5w40 SSO. Then I would use this for sure, because it would give me a bit of a buffer if it thins out.

 

[3Toyotas]

From all the UOA i have seen on this site, they all point to SSO as being superior to ASL 5w30 or ASM 0w20. This is considering a 15k+ OCI.
I'm seriously considering switching all our rigs to the SSO.

From what i've read here, you need to do 2-3 full runs before you'll know what oil works best for your ride. Anybody else want to comment here?

 

[StevieC]

I have run it for 3 runs and then sent in a UOA. I had great results as seen on my UOA's and I have never had the thinning problem, but the ASL has produced better numbers for my engine. Terry tells me that the ASL works better in most engines than SSO. Just what I have heard. I think SSO is a great oil, although I don't like how much sodium is in it, it's very high.

 

[3Toyotas]

I would really like to know what the SSO is best suited for: all aluminum engines, DOHC, timing chain, etc...

I think we ALL would like to know.

Pablo?

Gary? Where are you?

 

[StevieC]

Well my Hyundai has a DOHC system and the second cam in each head is driven by a chain from the first cam. It's all alluminum. Don't know if this helps explain maybe why my engine isn't suited for this oil according to Terry.

I would gladly use it, because the UOA's are great for my driving style and I think I could get many miles without a change.

 

[oilboy123]

The SSO is really a new oil. The oil it took the place of I believe was TSO? That might be the one Terry is talking about.
I have not even had time to run the oil myself.

I can't see ASL being better than the SSO. I also can't see SSO thinning more than ASL.
I would run it two times if it was me. I mean it's not that much price difference.......

This is when it came out: 2007 October Signature Series 0w30 100% Synthetic Motor Oil (SSO)

 

[The Critic]

Originally Posted By: StevieC
I think SSO is a great oil, although I don't like how much sodium is in it, it's very high.

SSO has sodium in it? That's news to me.

 

[Gary Allan]

Originally Posted By: 3Toyotas
I would really like to know what the SSO is best suited for: all aluminum engines, DOHC, timing chain, etc...

I think we ALL would like to know.

Pablo?

Gary? Where are you?


Our distinctions between one engine or another, in terms of suitability, is mostly a moot point. You're talking noise drift (some fractional standard deviation above or below some baseline)

In FireHawk's service profile he could use ASL, SSO, ASM, ..heck ..even HDD all for one year.

Given his time frame, even at the higher mileage that he accumulates, it's also a toss up on doing another round if he's considering going to a 20 grade. We'd all like to get things done in our lifetime

 

[Firehawk409]

lol ya man i dont know if i'll be around to even get to the 20w if i go another round or two on the SSO. Maybe if i have kids i'll leave it in my will. Most of this does stem from my curiosity on wanting to try out the 20w.

The SSO seems to have done well thus far. No drop in fuel mileage no new engine noises or any diff in perf that I can FEEL. So in that aspect its done well. I have a blackstone kit sitting in my closet so i'll probably just use them for an OA to find out what the real deal is. In the next few weeks I think just going to go ahead and order another go round of the SSO. I just really hope the OA comes out good and not make me feel like a dunce for ordering it again.

 

[Pablo]

Originally Posted By: StevieC
FWIW... When I sent my sample into Terry he told me that the ASL performs better in most cars and that the SSO 0w30 isn't as good as the ASL in most applications, especially if there is even minute traces of fuel which causes it to thin out... I have 3 gallons which I'm going to use up, but then it's ASL all the way.


Terry must have been thinking of the old TSO. I'm sure something didn't get translated correctly. There is no way ASL is better than SSO, and Terry knows this.

The line about SSO thinning out with minute traces of fuel is total B-U-L-L Squat. Pull fresh out of someone's......as well the "most applications" part. I'm not saying this in a defensive mode, I'm saying this is another example of BITOG garbage just being thrown out there with zero evidence!!

Come on people. WE can do better. If SSO degrades with fuel, show me the money!! UOA's have shown no such thing!!

 

[Pablo]

Originally Posted By: StevieC
I think SSO is a great oil, although I don't like how much sodium is in it, it's very high.


Fact check, aisle 9. How much Na does SSO have?

 

[Pablo]

Originally Posted By: 3Toyotas
I would really like to know what the SSO is best suited for: all aluminum engines, DOHC, timing chain, etc...

I think we ALL would like to know.



SSO has shown to be a shear stable, TBN stable, low wear, medium to low SAPS suitable in many, many engine types. It does not have a 100°C vis on the high side so it's suitable in most SAE 20 engines as well as SAE 30 engines. It does very well in any modern engine. Haven't seen a "bad" UOA, that I can think of.

I'm 14+months on mine 15,000 miles+.

The real negative is the cost.

 

[3Toyotas]

Originally Posted By: Pablo


SSO has shown to be a shear stable, TBN stable, low wear, medium to low SAPS suitable in many, many engine types. It does not have a 100°C vis on the high side so it's suitable in most SAE 20 engines as well as SAE 30 engines. It does very well in any modern engine. Haven't seen a "bad" UOA, that I can think of.

I'm 14+months on mine 15,000 miles+.

The real negative is the cost.


I have always thought this way about SSO as well. Terry had to have been talking TSO you'd think.

My first run with ASM in my 07 tundra was not impressive to me at all. I was told here that i didn't give the oil a fair chance, but jumped the gun and switched to ASL beforehand(even though the engine is specd for a 20w.) I have now lost about 2 mpg in mileage, which i don't like either. I'm sure the ASM would do okay after a few OCI'S but i'm unsure about protection with a 20w & after my first UOA on this truck confirms my suspisions(although it wasn't that bad). The TBN was about gone at 2.9 or so with high silicon & a couple other concerns, and this was 6k miles and 6 months!!! Just IMO, not a good UOA.
This truck's sole purpose 95% of the time is towing trailers between 8&10k lbs and will only see about 10k miles per year max.
I do not want to change the 8 qts of oil more than once per year,(safely) and i would prefer to pony up the extra couple bucks for the SSO if it would benefit my situation.
If i were to switch, i might as well switch all my other rigs as well and save the confusion. The other rigs are spec'd as a 30w (not considering toyota's 20w TSB) and i might see a mpg improvement on these as well vs. a 5w30.

Is the SSO worth the extra money? If so, what should i expect?

Wow! 14 mos on the same oil? Is that okay to do?

Thanks for your reply.

 

[Pablo]

Originally Posted By: 3Toyotas

Is the SSO worth the extra money? If so, what should i expect?

Wow! 14 mos on the same oil? Is that okay to do?

Thanks for your reply.


If you run the oil 15K+ then yes. Expect as in? Maybe not having to change your oil so frequently.

15 months coming up. I wouldn't do it on a newer car. This is a 1996 Volvo 850 with nearing 130K miles. I need to put my money where my mouth is. I would NEVER recommend it to a customer, but this should show that 1 year is very, very safe.