Personally I wouldnt spend the money on a specialty oil as I wouldnt notice the difference and nor would my car. Maybe in a different application but even then the mainstream oils do such a good job it makes no difference. I suppose if you just want to run a niche product, I would go with redline or some other brand thats hard to find. Royal Purple sells at Canadian Tire and walmart and isnt all that niche or expensive (when on sale).
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Originally Posted By: skyactiv
Look into Schaeffer's Oil. They use antimony in their formulation supposedly.
What would that get you?
it's anti-moneyinyourpocket
Originally Posted By: skyactiv
Look into Schaeffer's Oil. They use antimony in their formulation supposedly.
What would that get you?
it's anti-moneyinyourpocket
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Amsoil OE. A "niche" brand at a typical box store synthetic oil price.
Originally Posted By: rfitz69
Essentially I am looking for feedback about the lesser known, higher end niche oil brands that exist and your experiences with them, why/if you would choose them over a regular store brand.
Donald's reply about the Amsoil was very helpful.
Thanks
I use Amsoil, and have since 2004. The Wrangler in signature had a head gasket at 168k miles and internally was spotless. Amsoil always since 20k, changed at up to 12k intervals.
Essentially I am looking for feedback about the lesser known, higher end niche oil brands that exist and your experiences with them, why/if you would choose them over a regular store brand.
Donald's reply about the Amsoil was very helpful.
Thanks
I use Amsoil, and have since 2004. The Wrangler in signature had a head gasket at 168k miles and internally was spotless. Amsoil always since 20k, changed at up to 12k intervals.
I've been using the racing version in my mustang this summer.
https://www.klotzlube.com/ECommerce/category/automotive/street-lubricants/engine-lubricants
https://www.klotzlube.com/ECommerce/category/automotive/street-lubricants/engine-lubricants
Go Petro-Canada! Won't find it in a box store...
Originally Posted By: rfitz69
What brand would you go with if it were readily available in a Peavey Mart, Napa or a Partsource? Assuming it were slightly more expensive than the regular store brands...
Out of what I listed, it's a bit of a tossup. Eneos, of all things, is the cheapest of all three, and for whatever reason has a better regular price than the majors at Partsource or NAPA. So, if I needed a synthetic for my G37, and wasn't looking at extending drains the way Amsoil and RP can, I'd have to go Eneos.
As for the suggestion that you just might want a pretty bottle, well, if that's the case, get Eneos. It's cheaper per litre than other synthetics at regular price at Partsource or NAPA.
If I needed dexos1, I'd grab the Royal Purple. Amsoil is also similarly priced at Peavey Mart, so that would be a consideration. Note, as has already been pointed out, that RP does go on sale at Canadian Tire and Partsource on occasion, but just not by much. Personally, I like all three brands, and it's hard to pick favourites, unless I'm pressing the extended drain bit with Amsoil or even RP, or needing an actual dexos1 oil, which RP is.
What brand would you go with if it were readily available in a Peavey Mart, Napa or a Partsource? Assuming it were slightly more expensive than the regular store brands...
Out of what I listed, it's a bit of a tossup. Eneos, of all things, is the cheapest of all three, and for whatever reason has a better regular price than the majors at Partsource or NAPA. So, if I needed a synthetic for my G37, and wasn't looking at extending drains the way Amsoil and RP can, I'd have to go Eneos.
As for the suggestion that you just might want a pretty bottle, well, if that's the case, get Eneos. It's cheaper per litre than other synthetics at regular price at Partsource or NAPA.
If I needed dexos1, I'd grab the Royal Purple. Amsoil is also similarly priced at Peavey Mart, so that would be a consideration. Note, as has already been pointed out, that RP does go on sale at Canadian Tire and Partsource on occasion, but just not by much. Personally, I like all three brands, and it's hard to pick favourites, unless I'm pressing the extended drain bit with Amsoil or even RP, or needing an actual dexos1 oil, which RP is.
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I'm a huge fan of Kendall GT-1 full synthetic with liquid titanium. Been using it in a 2014 Hyundai Elantra GT and 2014 Hyundai Santa FE v-6 (both direct injected). Both engines love the 5w-30 flavor of this oil.
I get it from a small mom and pop repair shop near me for $36 a case (12 qts). Great stuff!
I get it from a small mom and pop repair shop near me for $36 a case (12 qts). Great stuff!
Originally Posted By: rfitz69
Essentially I am looking for feedback about the lesser known, higher end niche oil brands that exist and your experiences with them, why/if you would choose them over a regular store brand.
Donald's reply about the Amsoil was very helpful.
Thanks
What engine do you want to put this magic elixir in? Do you have an unusual application or very harsh operating conditions?
In the US, we consider AMSoil, Redline, Joe Gibbs Driven, and Motul to be boutique, specialty brands. AMSoil has a lot of different oils formulated for special applications. Redline and Joe Gibbs are mostly for racing. Schaeffer's is borderline boutique, but is not as expensive. Royal Purple has passed out of being boutique, except for their formulations containing Synerlec.
Essentially I am looking for feedback about the lesser known, higher end niche oil brands that exist and your experiences with them, why/if you would choose them over a regular store brand.
Donald's reply about the Amsoil was very helpful.
Thanks
What engine do you want to put this magic elixir in? Do you have an unusual application or very harsh operating conditions?
In the US, we consider AMSoil, Redline, Joe Gibbs Driven, and Motul to be boutique, specialty brands. AMSoil has a lot of different oils formulated for special applications. Redline and Joe Gibbs are mostly for racing. Schaeffer's is borderline boutique, but is not as expensive. Royal Purple has passed out of being boutique, except for their formulations containing Synerlec.
Originally Posted By: rfitz69
Thanks Garak,
What brand would you go with if it were readily available in a Peavey Mart, Napa or a Partsource? Assuming it were slightly more expensive than the regular store brands...
that Napa Select (purportedly rebadged Val Synpowah?) oil with a NAPA silver (Gold if you want to go elite) filter!
Thanks Garak,
What brand would you go with if it were readily available in a Peavey Mart, Napa or a Partsource? Assuming it were slightly more expensive than the regular store brands...
that Napa Select (purportedly rebadged Val Synpowah?) oil with a NAPA silver (Gold if you want to go elite) filter!
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Amtecol full synthetic 100% PAO based oil. Pretty good bang for the buck and never caused problems when was used for 7k OCI in a 1zz Toyota engine.
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I am not sure this brand will get you anything over and above the top brands on the shelves, but Renewable Lubricants (RLI) formulations are made of Bio-Synthetics.
Over here the ester based Motul 300V is the exotic performance oil for those with deep pockets.
For us mortals with less deep pockets, we make do with Penrite 10-Tenths Racing. It's 100% group 4 & group 5, street legal, high zinc (1700 + ppm) and real specifications like API SN & ACEA A3/B3.
http://www.penriteoil.com.au/products-categ.php?id_categ=1&id_brand=3
Also the Penrite 10-Tenths Premium
http://www.penriteoil.com.au/products-categ.php?id_categ=1&id_brand=4
Get some of that under your hood.
For us mortals with less deep pockets, we make do with Penrite 10-Tenths Racing. It's 100% group 4 & group 5, street legal, high zinc (1700 + ppm) and real specifications like API SN & ACEA A3/B3.
http://www.penriteoil.com.au/products-categ.php?id_categ=1&id_brand=3
Also the Penrite 10-Tenths Premium
http://www.penriteoil.com.au/products-categ.php?id_categ=1&id_brand=4
Get some of that under your hood.
Originally Posted By: 06VtecV6
that Napa Select (purportedly rebadged Val Synpowah?) oil with a NAPA silver (Gold if you want to go elite) filter!
Only if it's on special. Eneos is cheaper at NAPA Canada than NAPA synthetic if the latter isn't on sale.
that Napa Select (purportedly rebadged Val Synpowah?) oil with a NAPA silver (Gold if you want to go elite) filter!
Only if it's on special. Eneos is cheaper at NAPA Canada than NAPA synthetic if the latter isn't on sale.
How about Agip or Eni.
They make a range of full synthetic and semi-synthetic oils with with API SN, ILSAC GF-5 specs (which is all most people want) and some Euro specs like BMW LL-01 etc.
But Agip's Hellhound logo, is by far the coolest oil logo around (they are from Italy) and would look very good sitting on your garage shelf.
https://www.eni.com/en_NA/attachments/pdf/isint-brochure.pdf
They make a range of full synthetic and semi-synthetic oils with with API SN, ILSAC GF-5 specs (which is all most people want) and some Euro specs like BMW LL-01 etc.
But Agip's Hellhound logo, is by far the coolest oil logo around (they are from Italy) and would look very good sitting on your garage shelf.
https://www.eni.com/en_NA/attachments/pdf/isint-brochure.pdf
Originally Posted By: rfitz69
Essentially I am looking for feedback about the lesser known, higher end niche oil brands that exist and your experiences with them, why/if you would choose them over a regular store brand.
I and my friends have tried a few exotics like Rock Oil, Motul, Agip, etc and they all worked fine. But no better than Mobil, Castrol, Valvoline or Shell (Pennzoil). The thing to look at is the specifications, to be a acceptable oil it needs to be API SN (or SL in some cases) then you move up from there. Dexos-1 is a step up, ACEA A5/B5 is a step up again. Then as things become more robust you have ACEA A3/B4 then the Euro car specs like BMW LL-01 and on to one of the best specs MB 229.5 or MB 229.51.
Once you start chasing these specifications as indications of quality, you realize it's hard to go past the big brands like Mobil, Castrol, SOPUS, Valvoline, etc. They are big for a reason and they produce some amazing oils.
However, if money is no object, and you only need API SN, you have lots of rare options open to you. Just check the oil meets the spec you need. Some of the exotics are going for more of a racing market, so they carry few real specs or out of date specs.
Essentially I am looking for feedback about the lesser known, higher end niche oil brands that exist and your experiences with them, why/if you would choose them over a regular store brand.
I and my friends have tried a few exotics like Rock Oil, Motul, Agip, etc and they all worked fine. But no better than Mobil, Castrol, Valvoline or Shell (Pennzoil). The thing to look at is the specifications, to be a acceptable oil it needs to be API SN (or SL in some cases) then you move up from there. Dexos-1 is a step up, ACEA A5/B5 is a step up again. Then as things become more robust you have ACEA A3/B4 then the Euro car specs like BMW LL-01 and on to one of the best specs MB 229.5 or MB 229.51.
Once you start chasing these specifications as indications of quality, you realize it's hard to go past the big brands like Mobil, Castrol, SOPUS, Valvoline, etc. They are big for a reason and they produce some amazing oils.
However, if money is no object, and you only need API SN, you have lots of rare options open to you. Just check the oil meets the spec you need. Some of the exotics are going for more of a racing market, so they carry few real specs or out of date specs.
Originally Posted By: SR5
How about Agip or Eni.
But Agip's Hellhound logo, is by far the coolest oil logo around (they are from Italy) and would look very good sitting on your garage shelf.
https://www.eni.com/en_NA/attachments/pdf/isint-brochure.pdf
How about this one?
How about Agip or Eni.
But Agip's Hellhound logo, is by far the coolest oil logo around (they are from Italy) and would look very good sitting on your garage shelf.
https://www.eni.com/en_NA/attachments/pdf/isint-brochure.pdf
How about this one?
That might be hard to find in Canada, though Partsource does do some weird things.
Yup, I get my Eni from PartSource
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