Wind, rain, and hail are 3 of the biggest reasons against solar on roofs anywhere. And Florida has more than their fair share of all 3. And also is the fact for most people the "savings" never materialize in the time frame they project.
Solar Panels for house
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I’m reading the posts in here and wondering what many are thinking. CA vs FL solar.
Just like EVs if the public doesn’t subsidize this stuff with their tax money it falls on its face.
Well the fact is Florida ratepayers never paid the people with rooftop solar panels the outrageous prices for the excess power they sold back to the grid that CA paid and FL ratepayers don’t have the sky high costs that CA does either.
So once again we have Federal tax money paying homeowners to buy the equipment but once CA stopped forcing its ratepayers to pay homeowners inflated profits for the excess solar power they sold back to the grid like @JeffKeryk gets, The industry in CA fell flat on its face considering CA power prices are dis functionally high compared to the rest of the nation it is a telling story that the solar industry does not stand on its own when your money doesn’t pay for other peoples solar power.
Take away the free money and _____
“California rooftop solar installations drop 80% following NEM 3.0”
https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2023/12...olar-installations-drop-80-following-nem-3-0/
I mean, come everyone
none of this stuff makes monetary sense without others being “taxed” to give others money to buy it.
Take away the free money and _____ (nothing)
Stop giving up to $11,000 per car in free money to EV purchasers and the same would happen to the EV industry as is happening to solar in CA.
Public in general cannot think critically and why we owe 35 trillion dollars
Just like EVs if the public doesn’t subsidize this stuff with their tax money it falls on its face.
Well the fact is Florida ratepayers never paid the people with rooftop solar panels the outrageous prices for the excess power they sold back to the grid that CA paid and FL ratepayers don’t have the sky high costs that CA does either.
So once again we have Federal tax money paying homeowners to buy the equipment but once CA stopped forcing its ratepayers to pay homeowners inflated profits for the excess solar power they sold back to the grid like @JeffKeryk gets, The industry in CA fell flat on its face considering CA power prices are dis functionally high compared to the rest of the nation it is a telling story that the solar industry does not stand on its own when your money doesn’t pay for other peoples solar power.
Take away the free money and _____
“California rooftop solar installations drop 80% following NEM 3.0”
https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2023/12...olar-installations-drop-80-following-nem-3-0/
I mean, come everyone
none of this stuff makes monetary sense without others being “taxed” to give others money to buy it.Take away the free money and _____ (nothing)
Stop giving up to $11,000 per car in free money to EV purchasers and the same would happen to the EV industry as is happening to solar in CA.
Public in general cannot think critically and why we owe 35 trillion dollars
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ZERO possibility I would install solar panels even if they were 100% free from Gov.
More headaches than what they are worth.
On a side note - we have a few solar field installation projects here in South Carolina. Some are right next to the interstate - makes sense as that land generally isn't wanted for much else.
None of these installs track the sun. That part seems stupid to me - for the cost of a cheap circuit and gear motor, you could probably get 50% more power a day from the panel.
Anyone know why? Utilities just too stupid? I know the installations in Australia the middle eastern desert's do track the sun?
None of these installs track the sun. That part seems stupid to me - for the cost of a cheap circuit and gear motor, you could probably get 50% more power a day from the panel.
Anyone know why? Utilities just too stupid? I know the installations in Australia the middle eastern desert's do track the sun?
And the yearly rainy season make it a very terrible idea.
Solar panels are good if you live in Death Valley, California.
There are two of us and we're both retired. We live in a 1,000 sq ft house in rural Missouri, and the house is total electric.
Our budget electric budget billing is less than $100/month.
Solar energy is a cool idea, but simply wouldn't be cost-effective in our situation.
Our budget electric budget billing is less than $100/month.
Solar energy is a cool idea, but simply wouldn't be cost-effective in our situation.
Then they did the math too late.
Of note, someone once calculated that it would take 2 miles of adjacent solar panels to power all national interstates 24/7 365.
Yet we have 2.2 billion years of viable nuclear energy available to us. If we are to de-Carbonize, there is one way to do it. With enough excess energy to pull as much Carbon from the atmosphere as we would like to, and separate out the Oxygen.
There's nothing wrong with progress. I do not have any solar panels however my brother does and he likes them but said do not borrow money to get them. If you can't pay cash he said it's probably not worth it with all the fees and interest. Some of those solar panel companies are real crooks and you have to be careful they know how to install them properly. I wouldn't write the check out until they were installed. Get a very reliable company if you are purchasing solar panels.
South Carolina tried to build a reactor and failed - spectacularly. Good to know your limits.
Yep. Take away the free money to buy an EV and that will fall flat on its face too. My fingers are crossed for a change later this year.I’m reading the posts in here and wondering what many are thinking. CA vs FL solar.
Just like EVs if the public doesn’t subsidize this stuff with their tax money it falls on its face.
Well the fact is Florida ratepayers never paid the people with rooftop solar panels the outrageous prices for the excess power they sold back to the grid that CA paid and FL ratepayers don’t have the sky high costs that CA does either.
So once again we have Federal tax money paying homeowners to buy the equipment but once CA stopped forcing its ratepayers to pay homeowners inflated profits for the excess solar power they sold back to the grid like @JeffKeryk gets, The industry in CA fell flat on its face considering CA power prices are dis functionally high compared to the rest of the nation it is a telling story that the solar industry does not stand on its own when your money doesn’t pay for other peoples solar power.
Take away the free money and _____
“California rooftop solar installations drop 80% following NEM 3.0”
https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2023/12...olar-installations-drop-80-following-nem-3-0/
I mean, come everyone
Take away the free money and _____ (nothing)
Stop giving up to $11,000 per car in free money to EV purchasers and the same would happen to the EV industry as is happening to solar in CA.
Public in general cannot think critically and why we owe 35 trillion dollars
That is why I don't have them. Plus, my wife thinks they're ugly. I think in another 10 to 20 years, solar panels will be a lot cheaper, more durable and better looking. New houses will be built with them as standard eventually with one or two 220V outlets in the garage.
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Babcock Ranch is a large development outside Ft. Myers, FL. They built a huge solar farm when starting the development. Their intent was for it to power a lot of the community and be owned by the community. Florida P&L didn't like that idea and took them to court. Court ruled in FPL's favor and FPL now controls the solar farm and the residents have to pay normal rates for power.
I will say that even though the charts show southern FL as not ideal for solar as the SW, the sun in south FL is very intense. In the winter it can be 45-50 degrees and you can't sit in the sun for more than a few minutes before your skin starts feeling like it's burning. Doesn't sun intensity affect solar panel power??
I will say that even though the charts show southern FL as not ideal for solar as the SW, the sun in south FL is very intense. In the winter it can be 45-50 degrees and you can't sit in the sun for more than a few minutes before your skin starts feeling like it's burning. Doesn't sun intensity affect solar panel power??
/\ This, to begin with. Secondly, homeowners insurance will not insure a house with electric solar panels.
Trust me, Florida get plenty of intense sunshine, otherwise, Florida Power & Light wouldn't have just installed MANY acres of solar panels.
Ultimately, FPL's incentive for net metering is pretty simple, they get free real estate, and no maintenance.
Trust me, Florida get plenty of intense sunshine, otherwise, Florida Power & Light wouldn't have just installed MANY acres of solar panels.
Ultimately, FPL's incentive for net metering is pretty simple, they get free real estate, and no maintenance.
I have been saying this for years. There was an article that said they predicted as many as 90+% of current companies selling residential solar will go bankrupt within a year, after the government subsidies run out. Your link supports those numbers.
It's the same with electric cars. Stop all the handouts the government is giving people to buy these overpriced toys, and you'll need a pair of binoculars to find someone who is still selling them in another 5 years.... If it takes that long.
Im all for the fed subsidy removal, but almost everyone gets the California "subsidy" wrong.
If anyone is interested in knowing where the real subsidy is in California ask one simple question.
Why cant people with solar panels can't legally disconnect from the grid?
The narrative that California's poor subsidized the rich purchase of panels was debunked by Lawrence Berkley labs who concluded that although it existed, its actual impact was utterly inconsequential amounting to pennies.
Thanks to a full court ad campaign big power in ca now gets its go forward solar power for free paid for wholly by new home owners who HAVE to purchase solar systems - and give their power away for almost nothing.
If anyone is interested in knowing where the real subsidy is in California ask one simple question.
Why cant people with solar panels can't legally disconnect from the grid?
The narrative that California's poor subsidized the rich purchase of panels was debunked by Lawrence Berkley labs who concluded that although it existed, its actual impact was utterly inconsequential amounting to pennies.
Thanks to a full court ad campaign big power in ca now gets its go forward solar power for free paid for wholly by new home owners who HAVE to purchase solar systems - and give their power away for almost nothing.
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