I've been running XL-7500 oil. Did I hear correctly that Amsoil renamed it OE (original equipment)?
So Amsoil OE == the old XL-7500?
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Uh.... so they renamed the XL oil to OE?
Originally Posted By: rrrrrroger
Uh.... so they renamed the XL oil to OE?
Not exactly. OE is a different formula.
NEW OE and NEW XL have the same base oils, XL has a stouter additive package.
Uh.... so they renamed the XL oil to OE?
Not exactly. OE is a different formula.
NEW OE and NEW XL have the same base oils, XL has a stouter additive package.
OE should in most cases be an 7.5k oil whereas XL can extend out to 10k. Amsoil list both as being accepted for longer in OLM vehicles.
Originally Posted By: 4ever4d
OE should in most cases be an 7.5k oil whereas XL can extend out to 10k. Amsoil list both as being accepted for longer in OLM vehicles.
OE was toast in 6 months and 4000 miles in my Aunt's Kia. Don't assume it is as good as the old XL or that it can go 7500 miles. No Amsoil bash here.
OE should in most cases be an 7.5k oil whereas XL can extend out to 10k. Amsoil list both as being accepted for longer in OLM vehicles.
OE was toast in 6 months and 4000 miles in my Aunt's Kia. Don't assume it is as good as the old XL or that it can go 7500 miles. No Amsoil bash here.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: 4ever4d
OE should in most cases be an 7.5k oil whereas XL can extend out to 10k. Amsoil list both as being accepted for longer in OLM vehicles.
OE was toast in 6 months and 4000 miles in my Aunt's Kia. Don't assume it is as good as the old XL or that it can go 7500 miles. No Amsoil bash here.
Originally Posted By: 4ever4d
OE should in most cases be an 7.5k oil whereas XL can extend out to 10k. Amsoil list both as being accepted for longer in OLM vehicles.
OE was toast in 6 months and 4000 miles in my Aunt's Kia. Don't assume it is as good as the old XL or that it can go 7500 miles. No Amsoil bash here.
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: 4ever4d
OE should in most cases be an 7.5k oil whereas XL can extend out to 10k. Amsoil list both as being accepted for longer in OLM vehicles.
OE was toast in 6 months and 4000 miles in my Aunt's Kia. Don't assume it is as good as the old XL or that it can go 7500 miles. No Amsoil bash here.
Don't be starting trouble now.
My post wasn't an Amsoil bash just a comment that in my Aunt's Kia 4K killed the OE she was running. As with ANY oil the mfg's suggested mileage is just a possibility. UOA's are required to verify they can go that long.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: 4ever4d
OE should in most cases be an 7.5k oil whereas XL can extend out to 10k. Amsoil list both as being accepted for longer in OLM vehicles.
OE was toast in 6 months and 4000 miles in my Aunt's Kia. Don't assume it is as good as the old XL or that it can go 7500 miles. No Amsoil bash here.
Don't be starting trouble now.
My post wasn't an Amsoil bash just a comment that in my Aunt's Kia 4K killed the OE she was running. As with ANY oil the mfg's suggested mileage is just a possibility. UOA's are required to verify they can go that long.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: 4ever4d
OE should in most cases be an 7.5k oil whereas XL can extend out to 10k. Amsoil list both as being accepted for longer in OLM vehicles.
OE was toast in 6 months and 4000 miles in my Aunt's Kia. Don't assume it is as good as the old XL or that it can go 7500 miles. No Amsoil bash here.
Don't be starting trouble now.
My post wasn't an Amsoil bash just a comment that in my Aunt's Kia 4K killed the OE she was running. As with ANY oil the mfg's suggested mileage is just a possibility. UOA's are required to verify they can go that long.
LOL I agree with everything you've said here. I just thought you were going to catch some static for your comments, that's all.
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: 4ever4d
OE should in most cases be an 7.5k oil whereas XL can extend out to 10k. Amsoil list both as being accepted for longer in OLM vehicles.
OE was toast in 6 months and 4000 miles in my Aunt's Kia. Don't assume it is as good as the old XL or that it can go 7500 miles. No Amsoil bash here.
Don't be starting trouble now.
My post wasn't an Amsoil bash just a comment that in my Aunt's Kia 4K killed the OE she was running. As with ANY oil the mfg's suggested mileage is just a possibility. UOA's are required to verify they can go that long.
LOL I agree with everything you've said here. I just thought you were going to catch some static for your comments, that's all.
There are many good, readily available choices on the market now that make Amsoil's offerings not worth it. I'd go with the XL/SS over the OE.
MaxLife now meets dexos 1 and can be purchased for $3.60qt when bought in the 5qt jug at WM.
My .02.
MaxLife now meets dexos 1 and can be purchased for $3.60qt when bought in the 5qt jug at WM.
My .02.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: 4ever4d
OE should in most cases be an 7.5k oil whereas XL can extend out to 10k. Amsoil list both as being accepted for longer in OLM vehicles.
OE was toast in 6 months and 4000 miles in my Aunt's Kia. Don't assume it is as good as the old XL or that it can go 7500 miles. No Amsoil bash here.
Don't be starting trouble now.
My post wasn't an Amsoil bash just a comment that in my Aunt's Kia 4K killed the OE she was running. As with ANY oil the mfg's suggested mileage is just a possibility. UOA's are required to verify they can go that long.
Amsoil OE was fine for 8,000 miles in a 2006 Civic that i sampled. Still had TBN left to go longer...
I'm just sayin, don't blame the oil.
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: 4ever4d
OE should in most cases be an 7.5k oil whereas XL can extend out to 10k. Amsoil list both as being accepted for longer in OLM vehicles.
OE was toast in 6 months and 4000 miles in my Aunt's Kia. Don't assume it is as good as the old XL or that it can go 7500 miles. No Amsoil bash here.
Don't be starting trouble now.
My post wasn't an Amsoil bash just a comment that in my Aunt's Kia 4K killed the OE she was running. As with ANY oil the mfg's suggested mileage is just a possibility. UOA's are required to verify they can go that long.
Amsoil OE was fine for 8,000 miles in a 2006 Civic that i sampled. Still had TBN left to go longer...
I'm just sayin, don't blame the oil.
A full synthetic that is dexos-certified and less than 4 dollars? Find that hard to believe. Can I use the MaxLife in a brand new car?
MaxLife is a syn blend and it can be used in new cars.
The least expensive dexos 1 full syn is prob QS UD or PP at Walmart. Maybe even M1. Any of them in the 5qt Jug at WM is your best bet IMO.
There just isnn't anything special about Amsoil OE or XL.
I guess I'm one that thinks if you go to order Amsoil you might as well get the SS.
The least expensive dexos 1 full syn is prob QS UD or PP at Walmart. Maybe even M1. Any of them in the 5qt Jug at WM is your best bet IMO.
There just isnn't anything special about Amsoil OE or XL.
I guess I'm one that thinks if you go to order Amsoil you might as well get the SS.
Originally Posted By: rrrrrroger
A full synthetic that is dexos-certified and less than 4 dollars? Find that hard to believe. Can I use the MaxLife in a brand new car?
Maxlife is a synblend. It is not Dexos certfied but exceeds dexos requirements. Maxlife can be used in any car, new or old. They do make a full synthetic version but it is hard to find and not updated.
A full synthetic that is dexos-certified and less than 4 dollars? Find that hard to believe. Can I use the MaxLife in a brand new car?
Maxlife is a synblend. It is not Dexos certfied but exceeds dexos requirements. Maxlife can be used in any car, new or old. They do make a full synthetic version but it is hard to find and not updated.
Originally Posted By: Artem
Amsoil OE was fine for 8,000 miles in a 2006 Civic that i sampled. Still had TBN left to go longer...
I'm just sayin, don't blame the oil.
I wasn't blamming the oil. WHERE did I in any way blame the oil for anything?
I simply pointed out that the OE is not the same as the old XL( Pablo pointed that out too )and that after just 4K the OE run in my Aunt's Kia was done( UOA results showed it so ). When people say such and such brand of oil IS good for X # of miles as a fact and not a suggested possibility it can lead to problems. You need to verify it via UOA's.
I would have assumed like everyone that OE should be ok for 6000-7500 miles or so in just about any application. Didn't turn out that way in my Aunt's Kia though. I had her do a UOA after hearing that she was given very bad info that OE could be run to intervals requiring the Signature Series line( year+ and 25K ). She ran it for a LONG time and WAY beyond reason on the miles because of this bad info thinking she was ok doing so.
When I found out what she had done on the previous OC for time and miles I had her do an OC right off and a UOA. I wanted to see if any damage had been done and to see how the oil that was in the vehicle currently was holding up( approx 6 months and 4025 miles ). It showed that at just 4025 miles the OE was finished - done - kaput!
I am not blamming the oil for anything. Just pointing out OE is not some super awesome formula capable of huge extended OCI's. Not in all vehicles anyway. I have seen 1st hand where in one vehicle it barely made 4000 miles. Again, not a bash on it. I would imagine a conventional oil would have been done by 2500-3000 tops in the same situation in her vehicle.
I am going to have her do another OC this summer and have that oil tested to see if the previous test results were a symptom of carryover from the ridiculous OCI she ran before that OC, or, if it is truly all OE is capable of in her Kia? If it comes back similar again( only going to 3500 miles this time )I wiill have her step up to the XL line.
For the last time not bashing Amsoil or blamming anything. The results are what they are and in her Kia OE did not perform very well. Simple as that.
Amsoil OE was fine for 8,000 miles in a 2006 Civic that i sampled. Still had TBN left to go longer...
I'm just sayin, don't blame the oil.
I wasn't blamming the oil. WHERE did I in any way blame the oil for anything?
I simply pointed out that the OE is not the same as the old XL( Pablo pointed that out too )and that after just 4K the OE run in my Aunt's Kia was done( UOA results showed it so ). When people say such and such brand of oil IS good for X # of miles as a fact and not a suggested possibility it can lead to problems. You need to verify it via UOA's.
I would have assumed like everyone that OE should be ok for 6000-7500 miles or so in just about any application. Didn't turn out that way in my Aunt's Kia though. I had her do a UOA after hearing that she was given very bad info that OE could be run to intervals requiring the Signature Series line( year+ and 25K ). She ran it for a LONG time and WAY beyond reason on the miles because of this bad info thinking she was ok doing so.
When I found out what she had done on the previous OC for time and miles I had her do an OC right off and a UOA. I wanted to see if any damage had been done and to see how the oil that was in the vehicle currently was holding up( approx 6 months and 4025 miles ). It showed that at just 4025 miles the OE was finished - done - kaput!
I am not blamming the oil for anything. Just pointing out OE is not some super awesome formula capable of huge extended OCI's. Not in all vehicles anyway. I have seen 1st hand where in one vehicle it barely made 4000 miles. Again, not a bash on it. I would imagine a conventional oil would have been done by 2500-3000 tops in the same situation in her vehicle.
I am going to have her do another OC this summer and have that oil tested to see if the previous test results were a symptom of carryover from the ridiculous OCI she ran before that OC, or, if it is truly all OE is capable of in her Kia? If it comes back similar again( only going to 3500 miles this time )I wiill have her step up to the XL line.
For the last time not bashing Amsoil or blamming anything. The results are what they are and in her Kia OE did not perform very well. Simple as that.
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Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
LOL I agree with everything you've said here. I just thought you were going to catch some static for your comments, that's all.
I know. I was having some fun back at you.
See what you started. LOL
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
LOL I agree with everything you've said here. I just thought you were going to catch some static for your comments, that's all.
I know. I was having some fun back at you.
See what you started. LOL
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Sounds like they've joined the rest of American oil companies in producing "synthetic" that isn't "real" synthetic in Germany!
That has ALWAYS been the case with the XL line of lubricants and AMSOIL has never tried to pretend otherwise. Their "Signature Series" oils are full synthetic and advertised as such.
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Sounds like they've joined the rest of American oil companies in producing "synthetic" that isn't "real" synthetic in Germany!
That has ALWAYS been the case with the XL line of lubricants and AMSOIL has never tried to pretend otherwise. Their "Signature Series" oils are full synthetic and advertised as such.
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