Snagged some red bottle Toyota SM 0w20-Question

[Colt]

These red bottles don't have that snap bottle top plastic like the black bottles when you take the cap off..
They do have a foil liner when you screw the cap off.

If anyone remembers,is that normal?
Ebay seller and it's old SM red bottle that looks clean and new.

 

[CATERHAM]

I think you've uncovered some of the original Nippon Oil made version of the Toyota 0W-20 before Exxon Mobil took over as the North America supplier.

 

[Colt]

Caterham,easy screw off cap with foil liner pour point correct?
I haven't ever used the red bottle.
I'd like to buy more.
I'm a bit leery because this red bottle 0w20 SM has been gone awhile.

 

[CATERHAM]

I just checked a couple of Nippon Oil made Toyota 0W-20 bottles I still have, and yes, easy screw cap with foil liner.

Congrat's on the score; it's good stuff.

 

[Colt]

Thanks,I feel better and will order more.

 

[CATERHAM]

What's the price?

 

[Colt]

Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
What's the price?


Too much at $7qt shipped but I like the SM a lot.
Is the red bottle Nippon better than the black Exxon/Mobil?
A little better?
I bought a couple of qts at $8 ea shipped to make sure it was Toyota red bottle 0w20 SM.
I'm working with the Lexus dealer seller on a $7qt shipped cost for 22 more qts..

 

[CATERHAM]

Actually I can't answer that question since I've only used the Nippon Oil although I've got more than 20L of SM Mobil made Toyota 0W-20 in my stash; God know's when I'll use it since I've moved on to the Sustina 0W-20.

As far as reasonably priced OEM 0W-20's, the current Idemitsu made Mazda USA 0W-20 SN GF-5 has 675 ppm of moly and a somewhat higher 221 VI. So that's higher than both version of the SM Toyota oil plus it's GF-5. The price is around 7 bucks/qt.

 

[Colt]

The Mazda high moly was my back up.
Watched the Sustina video and it is really interesting.Looks like a great product but the $11+ qt shipped is rough.

24 bottles of red and 15 of black SM and 7 qts of ASL in my stash.

 

[asharris7]

Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Actually I can't answer that question since I've only used the Nippon Oil although I've got more than 20L of SM Mobil made Toyota 0W-20 in my stash; God know's when I'll use it since I've moved on to the Sustina 0W-20.

As far as reasonably priced OEM 0W-20's, the current Idemitsu made Mazda USA 0W-20 SN GF-5 has 675 ppm of moly and a somewhat higher 221 VI. So that's higher than both version of the SM Toyota oil plus it's GF-5. The price is around 7 bucks/qt.


so you've actually never used the TGMO (mobil)?