SIG Sauer P320 self discharges

[KrisZ]

I'm surprised it's not being discussed here.

There is apparently plenty of accidental discharges with this weapon that many police departments are dropping in as a duty weapon.
And there was a military soldier that was killed by it.

What do you think? Honestly, If I owned one, I would put it away, dismantled for good measure.

 

[Pew]

Just to add, it looks like the new Barrett mk22 is joining Sig too.

 

[Astro14]

Yeah, not exactly a new topic. We’ve been talking about it for 8 years.

Thread 'Sig Sauer P320 will fire if dropped'
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/sig-sauer-p320-will-fire-if-dropped.274692/

Thread 'Sig Sauer P320 - Self Discharge Reports'
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/sig-sauer-p320-self-discharge-reports.332826/

Thread 'used Sig P320 (recall done)...is it safe?'
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/used-sig-p320-recall-done-is-it-safe.361471/

Thread 'Sig Sauer p320'
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/sig-sauer-p320.373944/

 

[Bottom_Feeder]

For sure there is an issue with the FCU design that needs to be figured out, and I'm a bit confused why they haven't been able to do so yet definitively. There are a million of them out there and lots of people are dissecting and testing them. If there was a specific flaw that could be identified and testing in certain conditions caused uncommanded discharges nearly every time, that would go a long way. But for now it seems like the UDs are still too random to figure out a pattern and get any reliable, repeatable data.

I really like the modularity of the FCU but not its complex design. UDs could just be a matter of manufacturing tolerances or wear or whatever making some more 'loose' and prone to UDs while others are fine.

I own one and I like it quite a bit. I enjoy shooting it at the range and will continue to. It's never kept in a holster and it never has a round chambered unless it's in hand and pointed downrange so I'm not too worried about something bad happening.

That said, I think Sig Sauer has handled the situation VERY poorly.

 

[oldcodger]

Is it possible this is a carry/holster problem?

 

[ripcord]

Is it possible this is a carry/holster problem?

Often these things turn out to be an all of the above situation.

 

[KrisZ]

Does it matter what the issue is? The proper question is why isn’t it being addressed and why is it taking so long?
We now have an airman that died while allegedly handling this weapon.
I’ve seen surveillance videos posted of this gun discharging in police duty and it’s a miracle more people aren’t dead. Sig must have a super strong lobby.

 

[tblt44]

Go back to glock & S&W

 

[Astro14]

Does it matter what the issue is? The proper question is why isn’t it being addressed and why is it taking so long?
We now have an airman that died while allegedly handling this weapon.
I’ve seen surveillance videos posted of this gun discharging in police duty and it’s a miracle more people aren’t dead. Sig must have a super strong lobby.

It matters because the issue isn’t as concrete as you make it out to be.

Don’t like the gun? Don’t trust it?

Then don’t buy one.

I haven’t. It’s just another polymer 9 to me. I’ve got others that work just fine.

 

[CarLuver]

there is supposedly 3-4 million 320 out in the public. If Sig were to admit liability , they would open themselves to lawsuits like crazy. Better to just litigate case by case . Shoot yourself with a sig. Throw a mil at you and go away.

I think they can't fix this issue without replacing something costly like the slide . fixing them all would most likely bankrupt sig .

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

Reality is never as salacious as the story they’re trying to sell you.

https://www.twz.com/land/army-makin...0-derived-pistols-after-concerning-fbi-report

After the initial report was submitted, Sig Sauer and its engineers worked in cooperation with the FBI and Michigan State Police to design a fixture that all agreed would create a more controlled testing protocol for striker/sear slippage,” St. John added. “Using that fixture, the FBI forced the sear off of the primary notch 565 times with 19EA different striker assemblies with zero indents on the primer (no fires).”

 

[Bailey28]

The SIG response to their P320 discharging reminds me of how Ford handled the Pinto saga of the 1970's.