No need IMO if your done at least the factory oil change recommendations. Waste of time and dollars.
Should you do a short oil change periodically?
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Still No. Right-thinking BITOGers would never waste their stash.
The first point is wrong and irrelevant. The simple reason that trans fluid changes are repeated is that about a third of the fluid stays in the trans. You are diluting that down with new fluid.
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Everyone needs to do that once and then realize a 4 hour drain whilst the BiL and you shake the car is meaninglessDon't forget the sacrificial 1qt pour through when draining oil.
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just oil = not really
oil + EC30 = maybe
I have done shorty's on ODPE that were neglected** to good effect. I think I also did that once or twice over so many decades on a passenger car or LT also to good effect; at least in my mind. But doesn't everything happen in your mind?
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** It really wasn't neglected, just not a lot of hours on the machine but a lot of years sitting.
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Haven't had the need for it over the last 50 years , I'm not going to start now .
Short oci not required but if you want to and it makes you feel better, that’s all that matters.
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It gets changed regularly mileage wise, but it does a lot of city driving, so not uncommon to have 350-400hrs on an oil change. They call for 15k mile oci now for the 6.7 cummins. I stick with 7500 miles
Other than our of boredom, no
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Yup. Or i need to impulsively check all my fluids, check the battery voltage, fuel trims, o2 sensor laziness.
i know newer vehicles have secret not secret diagnostic modes which are another source of enjoyment for some.
I can't see where this would be helpful on an engine that is well maintained. You're wasting time and throwing away good oil *LONG* before the oil is fit for disposal.
Now on an engine that has been abused / neglected and is sludged up? Yeah maybe it's worth it to run a couple of short OCIs to try and flush junk out of the engine. But as others have said there are products designed specifically for this purpose anyhow.
Now on an engine that has been abused / neglected and is sludged up? Yeah maybe it's worth it to run a couple of short OCIs to try and flush junk out of the engine. But as others have said there are products designed specifically for this purpose anyhow.
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You got a YouTube?
I would say that I can't believe the pushback on this, but.... this forum
To the OP-
I feel like I understand what you're asking and potentially trying to accomplish and I see no harm in it. In fact, I have done it myself and actually SEEN real results - I notice the oil stays "cleaner" much longer into a 5-6k mile OCI afterwards.
I have seen this countless times and I have also seen it make no difference in certain cases.
IMO, it will assist in removing more particles that might be suspended or don't make it out during an oil change. Not every drop of oil comes out. There's probably over a quart in most engines that is sitting in the oil pan (yes, in the oil pan) and other galleys/etc in the engine.
To the OP-
I feel like I understand what you're asking and potentially trying to accomplish and I see no harm in it. In fact, I have done it myself and actually SEEN real results - I notice the oil stays "cleaner" much longer into a 5-6k mile OCI afterwards.
I have seen this countless times and I have also seen it make no difference in certain cases.
IMO, it will assist in removing more particles that might be suspended or don't make it out during an oil change. Not every drop of oil comes out. There's probably over a quart in most engines that is sitting in the oil pan (yes, in the oil pan) and other galleys/etc in the engine.
So, it comes down to the goal - why do a short change?I would say that I can't believe the pushback on this, but.... this forum
To the OP-
I feel like I understand what you're asking and potentially trying to accomplish and I see no harm in it. In fact, I have done it myself and actually SEEN real results - I notice the oil stays "cleaner" much longer into a 5-6k mile OCI afterwards.
I have seen this countless times and I have also seen it make no difference in certain cases.
IMO, it will assist in removing more particles that might be suspended or don't make it out during an oil change. Not every drop of oil comes out. There's probably over a quart in most engines that is sitting in the oil pan (yes, in the oil pan) and other galleys/etc in the engine.
If, it is cleaning, then, the question becomes - did it need to be cleaned?
If, as you suggest, it is flushing out old oil, then the question becomes - of what benefit is that?
I don’t think clean oil on the dipstick, staying more translucent, or whatever, is a goal, and I am not convinced that oil color determines anything - other than satisfying some OCD.
So, back to - what is the goal?
If the OP wants to clean his engine up, then use an oil that accomplishes that. Specific goal. Focused action. I can support that.
If the goal is a cleaner dipstick for longer? Well, OK, that may be a goal for some folks, but I don’t see that it accomplishes anything, other than wasting the money on an oil change.
I man not a cheapskate - I am happy to spend money on things that I want or things that accomplish a specific purpose. I run HPL oil for a variety of reasons, and I am happy to spend the money. But I am very clear on why I am spending the money.
The “extra oil change” is spending money without a good reason why.
The engine flush guy is performing "experiments" with every imaginable variable changing with each iteration, and offers a conclusion at the end of the video as a finding. He ignored science, and didn't find anything.
Possibly peace of mind. How about removing some sort of stress from an individual who would be more comfortable with their schedule and level of maintenance on their vehicles, combating a memory or story from their past where something failed?
It's not costing the vehicle an arm and leg. It's not taking hours to perform. It's not costing or bothering you anything.
Have you ever done anything pre-emptively to clear your mind of a worry?
In other words, a placebo.
OK - then do a UOA and see how the oil he has, and his schedule and level of maintenance, is working.
Get real data for your $25.
Instead of nebulous, feel good, “peace of mind”.
That way, the money is spent on a definable goal, with quantifiable results, instead of being wasted on feelings.
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