Should gas stations be mandated to have chargers as well?
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They shouldn’t which I think every single person here has actually agreed with. Might be a first in the EV forum.
I think I better see where you’re coming from now.
I say maybe gas pumps should be mandated at charging stations...
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Don't think all that electricity around flammable liquids is a good combo.
I thought that the biggest issue with E85 for performance benefits is that the amount of ethanol (and thus octane rating) is inconsistent.
But yeah - the is an inherent need for oxygenates in fuel simply on the basis of improving octane rating and performance. MTBE has come out of favor. I don't believe methanol (which required corrosion inhibitors) has been blended in pump fuel in decades. I've heard of other possibilities but I don't think any have gone beyond the research stage.
But for the most part electricity is electricity. Charging a battery with a 110-120V or 400V source doesn't really matter once it comes time to drive. All that matters is that voltage conversion is done properly.
With free gas for people with between $49,999 and $149,999 income
Might be too late at this point. Modern gas pumps are basically computers and there are all sorts of electrical lines snaking through every gas station. There's all sorts of stuff at gas stations, including some with attached restaurants.
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You're right but adding more potential sparks can't be good.
You'd be surprised.
I remember years ago I needed a tire repaired and got it patched at a service station that was part of a gas station. The guy doing it had a heater in his mouth while he was doing it about 10 feet from the closest gas pump. I also remember pumping gas once where I was worried since there was a vagrant hanging out on the property smoking.
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This is a very good point that no one has brought up. We've all been to crowded gas stations before. And it's a royal pain. Most have too many cars and not enough real estate or parking to handle them. Let alone enough pumps during high traffic hours, before and after work.
Then you always have non fuel customers taking up space buying lottery tickets, coffee, Jujubees, newspapers, 68 ounce bladder buster drinks, etc.
Now they want to add charging stations on top of all that? It would create a clogged up mess. How many have driven past over crowded gas stations, and looked for a more vacant one? It's common as dirt.
As you mentioned, it takes a long time to charge EV batteries. Not 5 minutes like the gas and lottery ticket customers.
And imagine what it would be like if they actually sold all EV's that they're dreaming about. And not the existing 2% on the roads.
I'm glad you got my point. It amazes me that some people think a gas station is a shopping mall, lol, it's not. It's bad enough you get the jerks that fill up, leave the car at the pump, go in to take a leak and buy a pack of gum while tying up a pump, instead of parking it in a spot after they gas up. Now add to that people charging an EV, with their lounge chairs making it a social gathering. I did read that here on Bitog a while back about people bringing lounge chairs and bonding with other EV owners while they charge. Hey that's all fine and dandy, but let the owner of the gas station decide if he wants to be bothered with that, not Uncle Sam. Oh yea I don't buy cars to make friends or bond while I'm gassing up, if I need another friend I'll get a dog.
Aren't taxpayers subsidizing the production of corn and ethanol? Probably not much different than subsidizing a little bit of electricity.
You can't justify bad behaviour by pointing to other bad behaviour.
My thoughts exactly.
Not willingly. We are being forced to by the corn lobby and the enviro activitists.
But we "may" use them, and the vast, vast majority of people already do.
I would be much more supportive of EV's but frankly the whole thing is one big enviro sham being forced upon us. People just want to double down instead of seeing the truth that EV's "in total" are NOT enviro friendly, or motorist friendly.
They will increasingly become more environmental and motorist friendly with widespread adoption.
How so? Please explain further.
