Severe Service OCI with Quaker State Ultimate Durability?
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After reading the previous posts - what driving conditions and OCI's represent a prime candidate for synthetic oils ? Is everyone supposed to wait until being out of warranty before using synthetic oil ? For my Hyundai I have 96K more miles before my warranty runs out 
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)If you press the brake pedal more than two or three times on yoru way to work it qualifies as severe service, iirc
read that somewhere of "short stop and go trips" qualifies as severe service
short trips are severe service.
read that somewhere of "short stop and go trips" qualifies as severe service
short trips are severe service.
Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
After reading the previous posts - what driving conditions and OCI's represent a prime candidate for synthetic oils ? Is everyone supposed to wait until being out of warranty before using synthetic oil ? For my Hyundai I have 96K more miles before my warranty runs out)
I don't see it as an OCI issue or necessarily a driving conditions issue. If you are going to trade in 3-4 years, I wouldn't bother with syn. If you want to keep the car for many hundreds of thousands of miles, I would only use synthetic oils. Others are certain to disagree.
After reading the previous posts - what driving conditions and OCI's represent a prime candidate for synthetic oils ? Is everyone supposed to wait until being out of warranty before using synthetic oil ? For my Hyundai I have 96K more miles before my warranty runs out
)I don't see it as an OCI issue or necessarily a driving conditions issue. If you are going to trade in 3-4 years, I wouldn't bother with syn. If you want to keep the car for many hundreds of thousands of miles, I would only use synthetic oils. Others are certain to disagree.
how much are you getting the Quaker State Ultimate Durability for?
Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
After reading the previous posts - what driving conditions and OCI's represent a prime candidate for synthetic oils ? Is everyone supposed to wait until being out of warranty before using synthetic oil ? For my Hyundai I have 96K more miles before my warranty runs out)
Extreme temps and long OCIs are the prime reasons for using a good syn oil. You can use syn oil any time, but if you're going to to dump it at 3750 miles that's going to be a waste.
It sounds to me like you'd beter find out from Hyundai if they consider your driving to be severe or not, that seems to be the sticky point here.
After reading the previous posts - what driving conditions and OCI's represent a prime candidate for synthetic oils ? Is everyone supposed to wait until being out of warranty before using synthetic oil ? For my Hyundai I have 96K more miles before my warranty runs out
)Extreme temps and long OCIs are the prime reasons for using a good syn oil. You can use syn oil any time, but if you're going to to dump it at 3750 miles that's going to be a waste.
It sounds to me like you'd beter find out from Hyundai if they consider your driving to be severe or not, that seems to be the sticky point here.
Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
My driving is 14 miles each way to work = 28+ miles a day . When I bought theQuaker State Ultimate Durability my thinking was : " If severe service is 3750 miles OCI then withQuaker State Ultimate Durability I should be able to go 5000 miles as an OCI right ? If not , why deprive myself the right to shop for dinos on sale and begin hoarding like other BTOGer's do !!
ChrisD46,
You should be able to go and easy 6K if yur worried about longevity of Quaker State Ultimate Durability. Just use a good oil filter to take you there. You and I do basically the same amount of miles per day so what I usually do is about once ot twice per month I take it for a long drive on the hywy to drive any moisture out of the oil. It doesn't take long anyway but driving makes me good.
Durango
My driving is 14 miles each way to work = 28+ miles a day . When I bought theQuaker State Ultimate Durability my thinking was : " If severe service is 3750 miles OCI then withQuaker State Ultimate Durability I should be able to go 5000 miles as an OCI right ? If not , why deprive myself the right to shop for dinos on sale and begin hoarding like other BTOGer's do !!
ChrisD46,
You should be able to go and easy 6K if yur worried about longevity of Quaker State Ultimate Durability. Just use a good oil filter to take you there. You and I do basically the same amount of miles per day so what I usually do is about once ot twice per month I take it for a long drive on the hywy to drive any moisture out of the oil. It doesn't take long anyway but driving makes me good.
Durango
That is absurd, given the range of driving conditions in metro Atlanta, or anywhere else.
The dealer is jerking your chain.
I'd write or e-mail Hyundai, and see what they have to say.
Anyway, unless every other manufacturer will void an engine warranty based upon your not having changed the engine oil every 3750 miles, I don't think Hyundai would have a leg to stand on.
I hate to hear this kind of thing just as Hyundai is gaining a good enough rep to be considered a mainstream choice, not just a cheap one.
Some dealerships are the worst feature of any make of car, while some can be their greatest asset.
The dealer is jerking your chain.
I'd write or e-mail Hyundai, and see what they have to say.
Anyway, unless every other manufacturer will void an engine warranty based upon your not having changed the engine oil every 3750 miles, I don't think Hyundai would have a leg to stand on.
I hate to hear this kind of thing just as Hyundai is gaining a good enough rep to be considered a mainstream choice, not just a cheap one.
Some dealerships are the worst feature of any make of car, while some can be their greatest asset.
I would tend to agree with the dealer- Atlanta is severe service, as anyone who has been on I285 in rush hour can attest.
Same goes for NYC, DC, Jacksonville, Orlando, Dallas, or any other major city one can name. Stop and go driving = severe service. That's just the way it is.
Same goes for NYC, DC, Jacksonville, Orlando, Dallas, or any other major city one can name. Stop and go driving = severe service. That's just the way it is.
Funny that GM's very sophisticated OLM doesn't find it to be such.
For that matter, any Mercedes, BMW, VW or Porsche can do a great deal more than 3750 miles under the same conditions.
While city traffic may be bad, it isn't any worse for a Hyundai than it is for any other car.
I did 3K changes back in the dark ages.
I can't imagine that the typical Hyundai really need its oil changed every 3750 miles just because one lives in a major metro area.
For that matter, any Mercedes, BMW, VW or Porsche can do a great deal more than 3750 miles under the same conditions.
While city traffic may be bad, it isn't any worse for a Hyundai than it is for any other car.
I did 3K changes back in the dark ages.
I can't imagine that the typical Hyundai really need its oil changed every 3750 miles just because one lives in a major metro area.
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Funny that GM's very sophisticated OLM doesn't find it to be such.
For that matter, any Mercedes, BMW, VW or Porsche can do a great deal more than 3750 miles under the same conditions.
While city traffic may be bad, it isn't any worse for a Hyundai than it is for any other car.
I did 3K changes back in the dark ages.
I can't imagine that the typical Hyundai really need its oil changed every 3750 miles just because one lives in a major metro area.
OK, VW recommends 10K OCI across the board- or did when I worked for them. They are also getting a reputation for premature cam follower wear. I don't believe this would happen if the oil were changed more often.
The engine in the OPs Sonata is DI. Somewhere there are pics of a VW DI engine that is a mess. A few extra dollars to change the oil shouldn't be a deal breaker, and may very well help the OP in the long run.
Also, keep in mind that when cars are sold, low maintenance, high reliability, and warranty protection is stressed by the sales staff. All the owner needs to do is look for the asterisk in the owners manual. *
* All the stuff the sales guy told you about low maintenance requirements doesn't apply to you Mr./Ms. Customer. Don't feel bad, it only applies to those who drive in ideal circumstances (no dust/hills/stop and go traffic/heat/cold/high speeds.) In other words no one- you have plenty of company. Please see the Severe Service Requirements. Yes, this means you.
Those conditions are listed in my manual (without the sarcasm/humor.) My maintenance costs may be a few dollars higher than most folks, but on the other hand my cars never "assume the position" i.e. the tow truck. Seems like more than a fair trade.
Funny that GM's very sophisticated OLM doesn't find it to be such.
For that matter, any Mercedes, BMW, VW or Porsche can do a great deal more than 3750 miles under the same conditions.
While city traffic may be bad, it isn't any worse for a Hyundai than it is for any other car.
I did 3K changes back in the dark ages.
I can't imagine that the typical Hyundai really need its oil changed every 3750 miles just because one lives in a major metro area.
OK, VW recommends 10K OCI across the board- or did when I worked for them. They are also getting a reputation for premature cam follower wear. I don't believe this would happen if the oil were changed more often.
The engine in the OPs Sonata is DI. Somewhere there are pics of a VW DI engine that is a mess. A few extra dollars to change the oil shouldn't be a deal breaker, and may very well help the OP in the long run.
Also, keep in mind that when cars are sold, low maintenance, high reliability, and warranty protection is stressed by the sales staff. All the owner needs to do is look for the asterisk in the owners manual. *
* All the stuff the sales guy told you about low maintenance requirements doesn't apply to you Mr./Ms. Customer. Don't feel bad, it only applies to those who drive in ideal circumstances (no dust/hills/stop and go traffic/heat/cold/high speeds.) In other words no one- you have plenty of company. Please see the Severe Service Requirements. Yes, this means you.
Those conditions are listed in my manual (without the sarcasm/humor.) My maintenance costs may be a few dollars higher than most folks, but on the other hand my cars never "assume the position" i.e. the tow truck. Seems like more than a fair trade.
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Perhaps someone is mixing up the 2011 Sonata (direction injection engine) with a 2010 Elantra (very first words of the original post).
Yes, I missed that. Doesn't change my opinion, though.
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