Schaeffer's oil reviews on Amazon

[JohnnyJohnson]

Originally Posted By: OilFilters
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
They have a tendency not to post true but negative reviews on their service and their climbing prices.

Amazon posts any and all reviews that come in. The problem comes with private sellers, especially the Chinese. Often when you leave a bad review, they will basically bribe you to remove or edit it. I had one send me a $100+ set of headlights for free to remove my bad review. (I didn't, because the seller didn't keep their end of the bargain and change the description to make it more accurate) I'm not sure how the Amazon software works, but it really penalizes products with bad reviews.

If you're looking at something that is actually sold and shipped by Amazon, you should be able to trust the reviews. Especially the ones that say "verified purchase" next to it. The manufacturer could still send in some shill reviews, but, they would have to buy the product to get that "verified purchase" thing.


I had no idea when did the Chinese buy Havoline?

This was on a bait and switch by they Amazon shipper. They sent me red Jug conventional oil twice rather than the gold Jug Semi Synthetic. Got my refund though and Amazon or the shipper got to pay shipping both ways twice.

 

[Onug]

I’ve run three cycles of their 5w30 full synthetic 9000 series. It’s no better than M1, at least according to the used oil analysis I’ve posted here on the forum. It is good oil, but no better than anything else we talk about here on a regular basis. No reason to pay the premium price as far as I’m concerned.

And no, don’t believe Amazon’s reviews. They can be faked and even if posted from a legit user of the product, you have no way of validating their claims. Too many variables to trust.

 

[racin4ds]

Schaeffers oil is the holy grail and pure unicorn tears for the 6.0 Powerstroke engines, It is like a cult following on my message boards and forums. I simply refuse to buy a botique oil that is only available through a "special" dealer and that has to be shipped!

If I could go down to WalMart and buy 16 quarts, I might just try it in my truck but until then, nope I'm not paying $35.00 for a gallon of oil and another $12 to ship it to me.

 

[Virtus_Probi]

Sure, there are fake reviews on Amazon and other sites...there are real ones, too, I see my own reviews posted on sites like Amazon and Tire Rack.
Buyers just need to be smart and try to filter out the dross if they are serious about researching an item.
For example, I was looking at Rhino ramps after a buddy recommended them and noticed that there were a fair number of reviews on Amazon that claimed they had collapsed in use. When I saw that many of these reviews included photos that clearly showed a number of distinct incidents, I figured it was pretty likely that these were real events as the effort to fake them would have been substantial. I ended up buying Scepter ramps that were of a non-stackable design that I felt might be more rugged, although I think that it would have been pretty unlikely for me to have actually had a problem with the Rhinos if I had bought a pair of those.

 

[OilFilters]

Originally Posted By: JLTD
I for one don't trust online reviews, they've often been edited.


Who do you think is doing this "editing"? Amazon corporate doesn't touch reviews. If they got caught doing that the results would be disastrous. The user can edit their own review, but, they're the one who left it in the first place. The seller has no ability to edit them in any way. (Like I said, they spent $100 to bribe me into doing it and I still wouldn't)

Yes, there are a few fake reviews. Either from the company making the item leaving good reviews or competitors leaving bad reviews. There are also people that are just too stupid to leave a review because they can't figure the product out. If you read through a few reviews, it's usually pretty easy to spot these. If it says "verified purchase" next to the review, then they had to buy the product first. That's a lot of money to spend for fake reviews.

I leave a review for most things I buy on Amazon, which is where I do most of my shopping. They always show up exactly as I wrote them. If I am leaving a bad review I try to back up what I say with photos.

 

[PimTac]

It’s easy to filter through the reviews. Anything that sounds nonsensical or just a rah-rah job for the product I just ignore. In most cases I research products I purchase from Amazon through other sources if necessary. Trust but verify.

 

[ddhmax1973]

I thought BITOG was actually started by a guy named BOB who worked for Schaeffer’s Oil. He wanted to publish some oil industry information, including Schaeffer’s Oil, that would help the average consumer who wouldn’t have knowledge of vehicle motor oils. This site wasn’t started by a guy who worked for Pennzoil, Exxon-Mobil, Castrol, Valvoline, or Amsoil. So I guess for myself, that shows that Schaeffer’s Oil stands behind their products, or they probably would have fired Bob for creating BITOG. If there are BITOG members reading this who are longtime subscribers, could you please verify this? If I’m way off, please add correction.

 

[Hall]

Originally Posted By: OilFilters
Agreed. So many dumb people think they can spot a 2-3mpg gain with the latest most fashonable snake oil. You could never make that conclusion without a dyno and many hundreds of test samples.

Further, if it actually did help MPG, then auto makers would specify it from the factory, just like 5w20.


MPG increases are the funny ones. In reality, a lot of things can "improve" MPG (not enough you'll notice in driving but if you calculate your MPG down to a couple decimal places, you'll see it), for instance, replacing your car's hood with a carbon fiber one will cause an increase in MPG. Why ? The vehicle is lighter now.

 

[OilFilters]

Originally Posted By: ddhmax1973
I thought BITOG was actually started by a guy named BOB who worked for Schaeffer’s Oil. He wanted to publish some oil industry information, including Schaeffer’s Oil, that would help the average consumer who wouldn’t have knowledge of vehicle motor oils.


This site was started by Bob so he could sell more oil. In the early days he had a number of *extremely* cheesy tests on the main page trying to show Schaeffers is better, but in reality they didn't really prove anything. This was simply a sales tool for him.