Scams targeting the elderly

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I visited my grandmother over the weekend. She's 92 now, and living in an apartment unit that caters to the elderly. She lives a few hours from me, but her children (my aunts and uncles) mostly live close to her. They do a decent job helping her out, but she's fiercely independent.

She gets at least three pieces of mail every day and several phone calls that are scams targeting the elderly. She picks most of them out, but still sends $20 to a few people every week despite everything we do... there's just no telling her otherwise. She wants to believe that everyone is good, so when "Sister Mary Catherine" from "Covenant Catholic Rescue Mission" (or whatever) sends her a letter asking for help to get kids off the street, she just can't imagine that there is no nun and there is no mission. I told my aunts and uncles that she's still sending money to these scams with the hope that they might screen her mail, but who knows. It's out of my hands, and I did everything I could.

That being said, I'm going to list a few scams for those of you with elderly family members. Hopefully you'll recognize them and can intervene if you see it happening.

Social Security Donations - A firm called "Benefit Security Coalition" sent her a very official-looking letter stating that she had just 3 days to send them $18 so they could petition some commissioner on her behalf, claiming that she would otherwise risk a decrease in benefits. This one was especially effective as it targeted Social Security. Those old folks are very sensitive to that topic, and the three days notice didn't leave her much time to discuss it with anyone. From my research there is also a "Civic Council" that uses the same address and perpetuates a similar scam.

Fake Charities - This one is pretty self-explanatory. "Charities" send her lots of brightly colored packaging with free calculators, pens, and notebooks so she'll feel obligated to send them something in return. Most of them aren't real charities, and the ones that are rank very poorly; spending most of their income on "administrative costs".

Prizes and Sweepstakes - We've all seen these. They often ask for some amount of money to secure their winnings, or you have to order magazine subscriptions, or whatever. She gets more of these than anything else, often in official-looking envelopes that appear to be from the IRS or another government agency.

Phone Calls - Someone called her asking about a cruise that she had booked. When she said that she hadn't done any such thing, the man on the phone told her that he was going to fire someone in his office for booking the cruise for her, obviously hoping that she would pay for a cruise out of guilt trying to save someone's job.

Local Sheriff's Dept. - There is a fundraising company that collects on behalf of the Sheriff's Dept. I imagine most of the money collected goes to the company anyhow. I told her not to send them anything, and no, they would not arrest her. Yes, they will still respond if she calls 911. She just can't say "no" and hang up the phone.

I pleaded with her not to send money to people that she doesn't know, and even left her a list of local charities that have real buildings. Red Cross, volunteer fire dept, Habitat for Humanity, animal shelter. I don't think she's been taken in any big scams yet, but all those $20 checks she mails out add up. That's a lot of Pennzoil Ultra.
 
Thanks for sharing. That is my greatest fear with my parents. My Dad is 94 and will tell anyone who calls everything about his business including banking info, etc. Like your grandma, he simply can't believe there are bad people in the world who will rob him or take advantage of him.

My mother is more savvy and can spot a scam a mile away. What we did was disconnect the phone in my Dad's den so that when the phone rings, my mother gets it in the kitchen. They are both hard of hearing so after said phone call, they shout at one another as to what happened. "GINNY, WHO WAS ON THE PHONE!!!" "IT WAS A WRONG NUMBER!!!" "WHAT?" "A WRONG NUMBER!" "WHAT?" "A WRONG NUMBER!!!" This can go on for about ten minutes.

Odd you would mention the Social Security thing. While I am a long way from retirement, I've been coming home to find a message on my answering machine almost every day to find one of these. It starts out with a woman's voice saying: "Defend your rights and safeguard your future."
 
Re think the red cross, them like goodwill are not always as good as you may believe.
 
Originally Posted By: ram_man
Re think the red cross, them like goodwill are not always as good as you may believe.

I agree, but at least they're real. They showed up when my hometown was flooded a decade ago, unlike the fake charities that she sends money to now.
 
About 10 years ago, my mother called me and told me that she had gotten an email from her bank asking for some account information, and that she had provided it. I told her, "Hang up now, and call the bank immediately and tell them about it." The process took maybe 10 minutes from her responding to the email to her talking to the bank. They had already tried to use the card, but the bank had not authorized it, fortunately. They immediately canceled the card and issued her a new one.

I hate people who prey on the elderly.
 
Power Company scam...

You get a call from someone pretending to be the Power Company (or Water, Phone, etc)

They say your bill is overdue, and will be shut off.
They offer to take a credit card or bank account info for payment...

I burned them by asking for THEIR bank account info, I needed it for the transfer, then ratted them out to the cops, who slapped a hold on the account...
 
If you've got elderly parents who, like mine, just can't help but give money to charity,
find an organization who uses 100% of the funds for the charity, and not a sizable percentage to line their pockets.

Some of the big name charities have 25 to 60 percent overhead expenses, and lots of six/seven figure executives...

I've arranged for my parents to give to The Blind Cat Rescue in St Pauls, NC...

www.blindcatrescue.com/
 
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Power Company scam...

You get a call from someone pretending to be the Power Company (or Water, Phone, etc)

They say your bill is overdue, and will be shut off.
They offer to take a credit card or bank account info for payment...

I burned them by asking for THEIR bank account info, I needed it for the transfer, then ratted them out to the cops, who slapped a hold on the account...



Nice...
 
I am friends with an elderly woman and her lodger, who is a retired seaman. John (her lodger) is very wary of scams but my friend is vulnerable.

I always am warning her. The last attempts were by some con-men who told her that the City required that her house foundation be inspected. I advised her to hang up on them and call the cops, which she did.
 
My Grandpa gets at least 10 pieces of mail a day for both him and his deceased wife, asking for money. Some of them actually have real dollars, coins inside hoping you will be nice enough to 'send it back' along with maybe a 'little extra.' He likes those ones. He'll comment, "I made $2.50 today just for opening my mail."
 
In my city we have a ton of sketchy telemarketing places that target the elderly and people in the USA. Selling low interest credit etc etc. Its pretty bad. Thats why its important to educate the elderly on these things.
 
It's not so much an education thing as one of pride and "I can still run my life without the kids meddling in my business." The scammers just have to find the right thing to tickle an old person's ego and they have an in. Once that happens once the old guy makes a "sucker list" and problems pour in.
 
If you want to give to a Charity, (any Charity) investigate first.
Go to www.charitynavigator.org

My Mother use to receive 1/2 dozen letters a day asking for money.
I suspect most were scams.

* The Pope from Alaska
* Orphans in Chicago
* Native Indian Children out West

If everyone was responsable and took care of themselfs, we would not need most of those so-called Charitys.
 
A few years ago a couple that was scammed out of their entire savings and retirement both committed suicide. The scammer got a slap on the wrist. The punishment for scamming old folks does not appear to be a good match for the crime. In this case the scammer killed this couple just as sure as if he shot them both.
 
Thank God my parents are just the opposite. So no worries there.

It really is a sad state of affairs when you think about it.
 
I get sick every time I see a commercial for a "reverse mortgage".

Both of my grandmothers got caught up in some sort of scam at one point in time or another.

It's sad because they are from an era where that stuff didn't exist. Everything was legitimate when they were younger and people were honest.
 
It's confusing because years ago we were taught to: be polite on the phone.

Now we tell our parents to: just hang up.

If they have the sense to realize it could be a scam,
I bet the older people still have to say "GOOD-BY" before hanging up.
 
It turns out to be a brain thing. A study found that once we hit 50 or so our ability to see the red flag is reduced and this gets worse as we get older.

I have been down to Florida several times to help old people who have been taken advantage of. A state with little or no consumer protection. It (consumer fraud) is an industry down there.
 
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Originally Posted By: rfeir
It turns out to be a brain thing. A study found that once we hit 50 or so our ability to see the red flag is reduced and this gets worse as we get older.



Interesting, as I get older I find it just the opposite. The B_S meter triggers even sooner now.
 
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