Rotella T 5w40, Accord with v-6!

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Hello folks and what I cant get over is the gentlemen on our board with his 02' Accord with the v-6 in it and he's using Rotella T 5w40! Dont beat me up too bad but would I be ok in using that in my 03' Civic with the 1.7L? I know my brother is using this same oil in his 91' integra with the v-6 and he has like 300k on that thing. I also dont get why Honda says that us here in the U.S.A. should use 5w20.

Just my crazy thought and any info and help is greatly appreciated.


Adam
 
CAFE is the driver behind 5w20 IMHO. Rotella T6 would work just fine in your Honda. The rest of the world gets by without running 5W20 don't see why we wouldn't.
About 2cents worth
 
"Life is like a box of chocolates." Flukes happen. I run the oem spec Mobil 1 Extended Performance 5w20 in my ,Bass boat towing, 02 V6 Accord. 115,000,runs perfectly. Thinner oil runs cooler. Most of us, driving Hondas,will have our AT go,long,before our motors go. Drain and fill 3-4 quarts of you atf with Honda Dw-1,annually,run a good synthetic enigine oil to maximize powertrain longevity.
 
0W-20 Edge in my gf's '03 Civic. I asked whether I could use some left over T6 in her car before I changed her oil last, and the consensus was 'no.'
 
So far from what smoky14, and FZ1 have kinda told me I could run Rotella T 5w40 then eh? I just talked to my brother a while ago(bout half hr ago), and he said when he did his timing belt and water pump and valve stem seals and spark plugs and the valve cover gasket, he said the cylinder head looked really clean, not a whole lot of varnish or nothing. I am just curious is all, as at my work we use nothing but 5w30 Safety Kleen in our ENTIRE fleet. I think my one family friend back in Punxsutawney uses Rotella T 5w40 in his 99' Camry thats a 4cyl and auto trans. He pushes his oci to bout 8K oci


Thanks for the info and feedback guys. Maybe I will try some of it next oci with a wix 51356 like I have always used for a filter.

Adam
 
The engine will live a very long time on a twenty grade oil.
Whether it would live longer on T6 is academic, since it will already last longer than the rest of the car.
If I happened to have some T6 just waiting to be used in something, I would use it as a summer fill in a Civic.
If I were going out and buying oil, I think I'd stay with a twenty or maybe a thirty grade.
With any of these oils, engine wear won't be what kills the car.
Higher HTHS may yield lower wear, but the engine will carry the car to the junkyard when rust has rendered it unsafe to drive if the engine is run on a twenty grade, so it really doesn't matter.
 
fcdg27

Well said!

We fret over what oil to use and many of us won't even keep the vehicle long enough to find out if the oil we used made the thing last any longer or not.
 
BITOG members have had great results with 20 weight oils in Honda engines, both I4 and V6. No reason to run heavier oils. They won't give you better protection, the engine will run hotter and the mileage will be less.
 
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Adam, the question to ask yourself is, "Why do I want to do this?"

CATERHAM said it well. There's just no advantage to a heavier oil than specified in most cases. The only reason to use it would be in super hot climates and/or hard continuous use (in both cases we are talking regular operating oil temps in excess of 212F) or in an engine that has viscosity loss problems due to fuel dilution or shearing. Do you fit in either of those two scenarios? If you did, most likely a 30 grade oil would be all you need anyway.

As to the VTEC, the potential is there for the heavier oil (it's two grades above what's spec'ed) to disrupt operation in some way. I'm less worried about that than I might have been due to some experimentation with my own Ford's VVT system with a one grade increase in viscosity. I datalogged my EFI system and couldn't see any changes going from a 5W20 to a 10W30. We may be talking about apples and oranges here comparing Ford to Honda, though. FYI, my reason for the change was not that I felt theengineneeded the heavier oil, it had more to do with my wallet and my sanity. I was looking for one oil that would work in all of my small farm fleet and 10W30 HDEO will fit the bill. I'm willing to sacrifice a little MPG towards that goal.

We keep hearing, "Oh they only went to the 20 grades for CAFE." Ok, so what if they did? It hasn't hurt anything. Engines are still going past 200K mile. There isn't a rash of failures over and above the normal rate. What's so wrong with better MPG... even if it's not a huge increase. More to the point, what's the demonstrated advantage of going two grades heavier that makes it worth the loss of fuel economy? Demonstrate a need!

Adam, nobody that's clued in will argue against a choice to use a heavier oil when there is a demonstrated need. Like J.B. Books said, "when you needs six, load six." You can use what oil you want, of course, but think of your own bests interests here.


Remember: "As thin as possible, as thick as necessary."
 
Of course your engine will run on RT6 5w40, but why jump two viscosity grades when Honda has proven the engine on 20-weight? I believe that this big of an increase in viscosity will cause a noticeable decrease in fuel economy. If you want peace of mind by going to a higher viscosity, go to a 0w30. At least the impact on fuel economy would be minimized.
 
Originally Posted By: FZ1
"Life is like a box of chocolates." Flukes happen. I run the oem spec Mobil 1 Extended Performance 5w20 in my ,Bass boat towing, 02 V6 Accord. 115,000,runs perfectly. Thinner oil runs cooler. Most of us, driving Hondas,will have our AT go,long,before our motors go. Drain and fill 3-4 quarts of you atf with Honda Dw-1,annually,run a good synthetic enigine oil to maximize powertrain longevity.


How big is this bass boat you're towing with an 02 Accord? Isn't the tow rating of them like 500-1000 lbs?
 
Thank you gentlemen for the advice and think I will use some Pennzoil Conventional 5w20 and be done with it. Neighbor uses advance auto brand oil for 4500 mile OCI in his dakota and wifes cavalier.


thanks again for the advice folks,

ada,
 
i have a 2004 honda 1.7 vtec been running 0w20 and 5w20 synthetics in triple digit summers since the car was brand new and still drives like new.
 
Originally Posted By: gathermewool
0W-20 Edge in my gf's '03 Civic. I asked whether I could use some left over T6 in her car before I changed her oil last, and the consensus was 'no.'


Your GF knows what kind of oil to use in her car? Surprising.
 
I have used Mobil 1 15W-50 in my '99 Accord over two summers ('09 &'10) and it didn't seem to have any effect on VTEC operation.
Fuel economy didn't seem to suffer noticeably either, although Honda called for 5w30 in this MY engine.
 
Originally Posted By: jorton
Favorites come and go with every formulation change but Rotella(and Mobil) 5w-40 HAVE BEEN GOOD OILS since the day BITOG opened.


I do concur with this. I have been using T6 in my Subaru for about a year or so and will continue to. It is a good oil and I like the heavier oils. Just my preference, so don't start a debate about why I should not use it. I drive 100+ miles a day for work and I like heavier oils for the robustness.
 
Oil viscosity selection should be a technical choice not an emotional one. Using a heavy "favorite oil" in a light oil application reflects a basic misunderstanding of lubrication.
In fact there are no bad oils just inappropriate applications.

Many incorrectly equate an oils "robustness" with heavier grade, lower VI oils. Robustness in fact is an indication of shear resistance and the ability of high VI oils to hold their high temperature viscosity in service. Lighter grade oils are generally more shear resistant than heavier grade oils; specifically 20wt oils are the most shear resistant grade.

Remember the lubrication axiom, "As thin as possible, as thick as necessary", and choose your oil accordingly.
 
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