- Dec 9, 2011
- Ca USA
Well, go figure..... I have ridden the bike twice, since I first posted and it shifted slick as butter. I have no explanation.....
Is that low fat butter, unsalted, salted organic or maybe goat butter? How can you tell the difference, it's just butter package marketing and the human mind is easily fooled, or so has been said.
BJ, You’re welcome…..With an average of only 1,000 miles a year I’m wondering if the clutch plates are sticking and some time and miles, hot and cold cycles might free them up?
The notion of using 5w30 in a motorcycle is shakier tho.The notion that smooth shifting is linked solely on fresh oil is on shaky ground...
Specifying the freer flowing 30 grade year round is a growing trendThe notion of using 5w30 in a motorcycle is shakier tho.
It is a tool for comparison.Lol, Mobil doesn't offer the 10w40 in the middle column anymore according to their website. Not even close on the anti-wear additives. Otherwise, it's a
cut and paste of the correct zinc and phosphorus on the 4T, and leaving the more than a decade old remainder of the 4T voa untouched.
There is no growing trend at all.Specifying the freer flowing 30 grade year round is a growing trend
among manufactures because they know 30 grades will meet and
exceed their customers mileage expectations...
Plenty of people report loss of shifting quality as the oil run racks up miles, then noticably improved shifting returns right after an oil change. Nothing changed except the oil. Not everyone is hallucinating.The notion that smooth shifting is linked solely on fresh oil is on shaky ground...
Disagree. I don't see anything about the current M1 10w40 4T that is comparable to their 10w40 "High Mileage" 10w40 car oil which is the only 10w40 Mobil offers beside 4T. I can appreciate wanting to use comparison as a tool but it just doesn't hold water in this instance when the analysis comparison posted is over 10 years old with oils that cannot be purchased with those formulations to do a legitimate comparison.It is a tool for comparison.
Mercy Zee you don't know for sure if the riders mood has changeNothing changed except the oil.
😂 ... I'm sure everyone's "mood and feelings have changed" over the hour or so that it took to do an oil change.Mercy Zee you don't know for sure if the riders mood has change
because API SAE JASO don't test oil against the way a riders personal shift
Granted... but unless API/SAE/JASO antes up a "scientific shifting quality study" its all guest and by-golly...😂
Just because API/SAE/JASO or anyone else don't do some "scientific shifting quality study" doesn't mean an oil change can't ever change the way a motorcycle shifts.
And some minds can accurately tell what the "guest" is doing/sensing, where as other minds can't really tell what's going on with the "guest". 😄Granted... but unless API/SAE/JASO antes up a "scientific shifting quality study" its all guest and by-golly...
The Japanese engineers have a saying for it "The mind is host, the body guest".
Without an API SAE JASO accurate oil shift test we don't know for sure the minds ability to discriminate between that which is accurate and thatAnd some minds can accurately tell what the "guest" is doing/sensing, where as other minds can't really tell what's going on with the "guest". 😄