I've been buying ACD oil filters and many other automotive supplies from RockAuto.com since 2007 without issue...good luck with your choice
Bill
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Rock Auto? Legit place to buy GM oil filters like PF63? Counterfeit?
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And just to restate:
Buy as much as you can from ONE WAREHOUSE. Look for the little truck when you select additional parts.
Just "buy as much as you can", is NOT the advice to follow literally.
Buy as much as you can from ONE WAREHOUSE. Look for the little truck when you select additional parts.
Just "buy as much as you can", is NOT the advice to follow literally.
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I have bought a close-out engine mount that was different from the claimed brand.
It was so poorly made, the bolt holes didn't line up.
I had no problem getting a refund, and didn't have to ship back the bad part.
The only real negative was the time lost taking the thing apart / together / and back apart.
I can buy the AC PF63 filter at my local Chevy dealer for 30% less than Walmart charges.
I buy all mine at Rock auto and have never had an issue. I also use the Champ 10063 or 10063XL for less money than the AC. My experience has been that the standard Champ filter is the same as the PF63 for less than $2.50 Champion makes them both. I posted a thread a while back about this.
I buy all mine at Rock auto and have never had an issue. I also use the Champ 10063 or 10063XL for less money than the AC. My experience has been that the standard Champ filter is the same as the PF63 for less than $2.50 Champion makes them both. I posted a thread a while back about this.
I get my UPF63R filters from RA. Always individually boxed and no shipping damage issues,
Excellent! Then you get them for free! MMA says so!
In all seriousness, what I posted is fact. But, your warranty is perfectly intact by using an aftermarket filter. 100%. If you had an oil related failure, they would have to prove the oil filter was the issue. They can't deny your warranty because you have a Fram/WIX/ PG, etc. spun on the engine. Someone else posted the detailed wording better than I can. But saying they are very particular about the oil filter used is nonsense and not true.
Go to your dealer and ask them straight up if using an aftermarket filter voids your warranty. If they say "yes" then say okay, let me have my free filters. The MMA says if the manufacturer specs a part that only they have to maintain warranty, they have to give it to you for free.
All that being said, nothing wrong with the OEM filter, and they're pretty cheap.
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Yes you ARE CORRECT,..what you say is true and factual. HOWEVER GM is in a general state of cost cutting and warranty claim costs is something they are trying to reduce. They are looking for "reasons" to deny/delay claims. They are stalling sending out replacement transmissions both 8 speeds and 10 speeds, even though they have plenty for production yet "supply" issues are delaying warranty claims. Same with the 6.2L and 5.3L replacements, magically they don't have any when yours blows....They are looking for reasons beyond what they have done in the past and I have no interest in fighting some kind of battle with GM over whether its a ac delco filter or wix etc...not worth it. I have personally had to fight with them on a warranty item that they denied...eventually approved...took weeks of fighting.
Yeah, I get it. Pretty piss poor customer service and if that's how they do business, buy a different vehicle.
Nothing wrong with the OEM filter, and cheap. Shame you have to deal with that. Nonsense. Crossing GM off my list.
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I just did an oil change on my 2021 Chevy Traverse w/ 4800mi on the oil/filter and had a RA ACD PF63 on it. I cut all my used filters open and this one looked excellent. Even with ~$10 shipping, if you're buying 6 ACD's it going to be cheaper than walmart or a dealer parts counter. Obviously it's a no go for one or two filters by themselves.
If an aftermarket filter failed and caused engine damage, it would probably be pretty easy to prove it was the filter.
True, it doesn't automatically void the warranty on the whole car. I've heard some dealerships try to claim that, but it's wrong. I have heard manufacturers void the whole powertrain warranty due to an ECU tune, which I can understand.
Context is warranty on the whole vehicle. But a dealer can always deny warranty on something if they can prove the aftermarket part failed and caused the damage. But most will try to claim the warranty is void just because they see an aftermarket part without proof.
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Not to mention the fact that they have better lawyers than you do.
The MM act is helpful in principal but in reality GM can dispute almost anything and it then becomes up to you to prove a counter factual.
I knew a guy that claimed he worked in the engine lab at the Milford MI proving grounds. He was familiar with their engine lab where they did some of the testing for the basis of the OLM numbers. He claimed that they also tested filters and that one name brand in particular did not meet their standards. I pressed him a number of times for the info but he wouldnt say. I realize that this is the classic internet story but he seemed legit since I am familiar with the proving grounds.
GM does have an issue with warranty on modified vehicles. They do investigate causes and have rejected claims. I have connections that have actually called and asked me to measure things on my truck(s) for the case.
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You could go after the oil filter manufacturer legally, if your warranty were denied.
They would have an interest in protecting their product brand.
Modifications on the other hand, are going to be hard to defend.
They would have an interest in protecting their product brand.
Modifications on the other hand, are going to be hard to defend.
Last month I ordered a large variety (both brands and applications) of oil filters and none of them appeared to have any obvious counterfeit clues. The biggest issue I ran into was that one of the filters looked like it was previously auto shop stock (it was a closeout item) and had the wrong part inside the box. They refunded me for that. The oddest one was the "Ultra-Power 51060" which was just a sticker on a microGreen MG410-3 with a 2015 date code.
I would confidently order an AC Delco PF63 from there as long as it is not a closeout.
I would confidently order an AC Delco PF63 from there as long as it is not a closeout.
Yeah I ordered a 12 pack, showed up today in a sealed box, they appear in perfect condition
Nope. They cannot do that by law.
Untrue. If it turns out that the aftermarket part was either defective itself or installed improperly, AND it caused damage to another part that is covered under warranty, only then does the manufacturer have the right to deny coverage for that part. The burden of proof is on the manufacturer.
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