Road rage karma

[HTSS_TR]

Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
In Germany they both would have been crucified for their stupidity.

In Ontario, her little trick probably falls under the "stunting/racing" law (as does his) and it is quite possible for them both to lose their license and be fined several thousand dollars. Also, using a phone while driving like she did is illegal up here, and is a separate fine.

Ontario law about "stunting/racing" here:

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/regs/english/elaws_regs_070455_e.htm

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8. Driving a motor vehicle without due care and attention, without reasonable consideration for other persons using the highway or in a manner that may endanger any person by,
i. driving a motor vehicle in a manner that indicates an intention to prevent another vehicle from passing,


I like Canadian driving laws better than any state in USA.

 

[turtlevette]

Originally Posted By: rjundi
The fact that that lady is laughing posts the video and writes about Karma is so disturbing to me.


Maybe the hag would have been happier if the truck rolled and the driver got ejected and crushed. I suspect this is not her first run in. Sometimes people are in a hurry for a good reason, medical emergencies and such.

I've run my corvette off the road like that just playing on dry roads a few times and got lucky as well. Looks like some wheel rash and that might be it. These new pickups with big engines are going to get out of shape like that on sudden downshifts even on dry pavement.

I don't understand the leaving the scene charge. No other vehicles were involved in collision. There was no collision. That's what green areas are for.

Maybe the next time it'll be a guy with his pregnant wife on the way to the hospital and she can kill all of them.

 

[Trajan]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Trajan
Regardless of what you wish they would do, they can't "throw the book" at her as she broke no Florida law.

She left the scene of an accident for which she is partly to blame by being passive aggressive. Alas, there is no Florida law related to it either.



How can one leave the scene of an accident that one was not involved in?

I didn't see her hit the truck, drive the truck, force the truck off the road.

 

[97f150]

Originally Posted By: turtlevette
Originally Posted By: rjundi
The fact that that lady is laughing posts the video and writes about Karma is so disturbing to me.


Maybe the hag would have been happier if the truck rolled and the driver got ejected and crushed. I suspect this is not her first run in. Sometimes people are in a hurry for a good reason, medical emergencies and such.

I've run my corvette off the road like that just playing on dry roads a few times and got lucky as well. Looks like some wheel rash and that might be it. These new pickups with big engines are going to get out of shape like that on sudden downshifts even on dry pavement.

I don't understand the leaving the scene charge. No other vehicles were involved in collision. There was no collision. That's what green areas are for.

Maybe the next time it'll be a guy with his pregnant wife on the way to the hospital and she can kill all of them.







I would assume that if someone was bringing their wife to the hospital they wouldn't be interested in smiling and flipping the finger at the slower car as the truck driver did to the woman filming. I also doubt he would be trying to cut the car off. She shouldn't have been playing with her phone but he shouldn't have been acting like a jack hole either.

 

[SatinSilver]

Notice the bright green safety jacket hanging on the front passenger seat? She must work(school crossing guard, hwy maint. worker etc.) where she's around traffic and pulls this stunt. Which I would define as baiting/taunting versus taking the high road and letting idiot #2 pass. This is what safe driving courses would preach. I bet the only reason she stopped and got out was to rub egg in his face even more which is additional baiting/taunting = personality disorder. She knew exactly what she was doing and would probably do it again imo.

 

[turtlevette]

Originally Posted By: satinsilver
Notice the bright green safety jacket hanging on the front passenger seat? She must work where she's around traffic and pulls this stunt.


I was thinking state hwy worker. Some of them have serious attitudes. I saw a guy at a work site on I90 act like he was going to throw an orange cone in front of traffic because they weren't going slow enough for his pleasure. People were panic braking because of this numbskull.

 

[dave1251]

Originally Posted By: GreeCguy
"Goosfraba" my friends.

Deep breaths, count to ten, calm down, be patient. Life is so much easier when we realize we're all on the same road taking the same journey.

Smell the roses, pet a stray dog, play games with little children, hold the door open for others, stop and talk with the homeless, wave at crossing guards.

In a world of brake checks, tailgaters and road hogs, relax, understand, empathize. Enjoy the journey.


IMO this is the most informative and useful post in this thread.

It does not matter what vehicle people are driving. There are aggressive single minded drivers, driving all type's of vehicles.

 

[Drew99GT]

Originally Posted By: CurtisB
What I saw in this video was a women being passive aggressive and attempting to bait a reaction from any speeding motorist. The reaction she got from the man in the large pickup was the reaction she wanted; otherwise she would not have put out the bait in the first place.


For that, I say job well done to the lady. Hopefully skeeter in his big [censored] Ford thinks twice next time he want to road rage and cut someone off.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: Trajan
How can one leave the scene of an accident that one was not involved in?

By the same token, if I cut you off and to avoid me you swerve and crash (into something but not into me), then it's OK for me to just continue on my merry way?

While the truck driver is predominantly at fault here, the whole thing wouldn't have happened if she didn't try to show to the world that she's the king of the road. But that's just my opinion.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: CurtisB
What I saw in this video was a women being passive aggressive and attempting to bait a reaction from any speeding motorist. The reaction she got from the man in the large pickup was the reaction she wanted; otherwise she would not have put out the bait in the first place.


For that, I say job well done to the lady. Hopefully skeeter in his big [censored] Ford thinks twice next time he want to road rage and cut someone off.


The alternative of course is that somebody shoots her next time. She's road raging too, but in a passive-aggressive fashion. His reaction was to drive like an idiot and cut her off. Somebody else's may be to drive up beside her and unload one into the side of her face. All kinds of outcomes to come of situations like these. We (and those involved) are lucky in this one that nobody was hurt.

There was an incident out east where somebody was playing "king of the fast lane" and policing the flow of traffic. Somebody overtook them and they, in turn, overtook THEM and then slowed back down. This happened a few times until the guy who had done the initial overtaking blew his top and pushed the other vehicle off the road at 75Mph. I believe there were serious injuries and both parties were charged.

Ultimately situations like these bring out the worst in people. What that entails of course varies individual by individual. Nobody knows how another is going to react which is why baiting and controlling situations like these are so dangerous. This could have very easily have gone incredibly wrong for the person wielding the camera.

 

[97f150]

From what I could see, she wasn't showing anyone that she was the king of the road. What she did wrong was record the whole thing. That highway had left turn lanes, which tells me that it wasn't an interstate highway where the "slower traffic move right" laws exist. She was going around 55 mph which is the normal speed limit for a highway like that. I'm not understanding where she thought she owned the road and all these other comments I am reading.

The guy in the truck on the other hand was trying to bully her out of the way, zipped over as soon as he could and flipped her the finger while trying to cut her off and lost control of his vehicle. What cannot be seen is whether she slowed down and sped up, so that can only be speculated on. In my book he's the one who ended up in the grass, and was visibly driving like a moron therefore his problem.

I don't get it, most other threads I read here complain about drivers weaving in and out of traffic, grossly exceeding the speed limit, and using a cell phone while driving. She is guilty of 1 of these things and somehow she is found worthy here of ridicule.

 

[HTSS_TR]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
By the same token, if I cut you off and to avoid me you swerve and crash (into something but not into me), then it's OK for me to just continue on my merry way?

While the truck driver is predominantly at fault here, the whole thing wouldn't have happened if she didn't try to show to the world that she's the king Queen of the road. But that's just my opinion.

Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
The alternative of course is that somebody shoots her next time. She's road raging too, but in a passive-aggressive fashion. His reaction was to drive like an idiot and cut her off. Somebody else's may be to drive up beside her and unload one into the side of her face. All kinds of outcomes to come of situations like these. We (and those involved) are lucky in this one that nobody was hurt.

There was an incident out east where somebody was playing "king of the fast lane" and policing the flow of traffic. Somebody overtook them and they, in turn, overtook THEM and then slowed back down. This happened a few times until the guy who had done the initial overtaking blew his top and pushed the other vehicle off the road at 75Mph. I believe there were serious injuries and both parties were charged.

Ultimately situations like these bring out the worst in people. What that entails of course varies individual by individual. Nobody knows how another is going to react which is why baiting and controlling situations like these are so dangerous. This could have very easily have gone incredibly wrong for the person wielding the camera.

Happened many times in the late 80's early 90's in both Northern and Southern California highways.

Most of the road rage shootings at that times were to drivers driving slower than traffic on the left lanes, the bullets entries were on the right sides of the victims. What amazed me was nobody reported any shooting even many drivers saw it, the general opinion at those shooting was the shooting victims got what they asking for.

Chiefs of Police in San Jose and LA cities went on TV's warning slow pokers not driving on left lane(s). Few weeks later there was no more shooting on highways, most slow pokers moved to right lanes.

Few years ago, road rage shooting happened again in So Cal, the victims were the same slow pokers in left lane(s).

Personally, when I drive faster than traffic by 5-10 MPH in the left lane I would try to move to the right lane as soon as there was opening, if there was a faster vehicle coming up to my bumper. After that vehicle passed me I went back to left lane and resumed my speed.

When I like to go slow with traffic (less than 5 MPH faster than posted speed limit), I usually stay on the lane next to the rightmost lane on 4-5 lanes(one way) highway. I stay away from the rightmost lane because of on-off ramp traffic.

Nobody owns the roads, everybody shares the roads. If I go slow I will stay out of faster drivers, if I like to go faster then stay out of my lane.

 

[hatt]

Originally Posted By: Trajan
Originally Posted By: hatt
Originally Posted By: Trajan
Originally Posted By: hatt
The video doesn't show how long she was in the left or what she did getting onto the road.
I'm going with both are idiots.


How long she was in the left lane doesn't matter. If you watch the video , you see a left turn lane when the idiot loses control. So it was not a limited access road.

So I'm going with the idiot truck driver who didn't realize he wasn't driving a sports car when he decided to cut her off.
So you camp in the left as well I assume.


Not required in my state if the road is not limited access.

Holding doors open isn't in the law either.

 

[friendly_jacek]

This is so classical. BITOG defends the reckless redneck pickup driver and labels the lady doing the speed limit in slippery conditions as passive aggressive who master minded the whole thing by provoking the guy. Folks this is not hwy, this was merely a divided road and she was turning left next, duh.

I wonder why police doesn't agree with BOTOG?
Quote:
Officers from the FHP were able to track down White, 33, at his home and arrest him.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2014/03/28/I.../#ixzz2xZ2UhWyU

 

[Quattro Pete]

Quote:
“He initially fled the scene of the accident,

He spun out in the median. Did not injure anyone. So was he supposed to call the police on himself and sit there and wait for them to arrive???


And then there is this comment from the lady:
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“I was paying attention to the road while holding the phone up with my right hand.

Might as well read: "I was paying attention while getting myself distracted."

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
This is so classical. BITOG defends the reckless redneck pickup driver

Nobody is defending him. But some of us think the lady isn't exactly a saint either.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
This is so classical. BITOG defends the reckless redneck pickup driver

Nobody is defending him. But some of us think the lady isn't exactly a saint either.


Bingo. Though this is typical BITOG discourse. Somebody goes off sideways when a viewpoint, even one that is right down the middle (IE, both drivers share blame here) doesn't align with their own. In this case, that the woman, using her phone as a video recording device, while driving at north of 50Mph and some would argue, impeding the flow of traffic and seemingly getting off on that, is completely without fault.

The video never did show her using that left lane to you know, turn left, which would be her only real reason for being there. Instead she pulled over and got her jollies off recording buddy in the ditch.

As I said earlier, I think both people behaved like idiots. That right lane was clear numerous times in the video if she really wanted to get out of the way. And the roads didn't look slippery. Her wipers weren't on and there was no fresh rain appearing on her windshield when the front views were shown. The roads looked like there might have been some rain earlier but were drying.

He's driving what is probably a 400+HP pick-up, likely turned the traction control off to "light 'em up" and well, did. Right into the ditch.

 

[exranger06]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Quote:
“He initially fled the scene of the accident,

He spun out in the median. Did not injure anyone. So was he supposed to call the police on himself and sit there and wait for them to arrive???

You apparently missed the part where he destroys a streetlight pole...If you damage someone else's property, it's your responsibility to pay for it. So yes, he absolutely should've called the police and waited for them to arrive. His insurance would then pay to get the light fixed.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: exranger06
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Quote:
“He initially fled the scene of the accident,

He spun out in the median. Did not injure anyone. So was he supposed to call the police on himself and sit there and wait for them to arrive???

You apparently missed the part where he destroys a streetlight pole...If you damage someone else's property, it's your responsibility to pay for it. So yes, he absolutely should've called the police and waited for them to arrive. His insurance would then pay to get the light fixed.


EDIT:

I just re-re-watched it and not only did he take out a streetlight, but also one of those "median markers" (the yellow sticks marking the divider).

 

[exranger06]