Originally Posted by Garak
Originally Posted by alarmguy
But for others following this thread, as I said over and over, Im on a quest to deny Google or ANY email service I use and any internet provider I use and just plain ANYONE, the use of my private information to be sold at auction to the highest bidder. You have to start someplace and the easiest by far is to start with your email.
Heck, it's not even the highest bidder. They sell all over. Nonetheless, from a data collection standpoint, one's ISP email is the least thing to worry about, since, as I mentioned, the ISP already has your information. You're not giving them anything more by using their email service, particularly if you're not going to their ad based page and simply using an email client. The real issue is the security of the email in transit, and none of these services adequately addresses this, as I mentioned, except where all involved in the email are on the same service or versed in GPG.
I also use OpenDNS as mentioned by uc50ic4more.
Want to confuse Google? Use Gmail, but only send encrypted text.
I can see we have two different concerns, maybe better said "goals" and that is fine but lets respect each concern which we both are doing.
I am not in the least concerned about the security of my emails in transit as there is nothing in there for anyone. ) Though thats a good one on the encrypted text!
YET, if I want to, with Proton Mail I can send an encrypted email to a family member (for example a medical record) that can only be opened with a one time password that I set up at the time of writing the email AND I can have that email destruct at anytime I wish IF I choose to. Lets say your worried that your personal information is laying around a family members computer that YOU KNOW is completely clueless about internet security *LOL* ... you can have it destruct. But again, I dont care, I just do not want my ifnormation being sold to 3rd parties and private email companies do not.
I do not use an ISP email service either.
As I said I only wish to campaign against google (and others) by not using their services as much as possible, if everyone did this things would change faster.
duckduckgo instead of google, proton mail instead of google, firefox, opera instead of google, its also a known fact that the google has been selling identifiable information in their packets on people, youll have to research it, just heard it on the news while driving.
I am also on the "cusp" of possibly for the first time buying an iphone, as much as I like Android, iphone might be my next consideration.
BTW I do have lifetime end to end encryption (VPN Secure) but I dont use it as it cuts my speed down to around 30 Mbps on my 100 Mbps service.
Like I say, one thing at a time, Im not hiding from anyone, not working on secret projects, just going to slowly plugs all the holes to hinder companies from making profits off selling my families information for profit. The people in this country have the power to crash googles stock price, if they got together and did it.
It would send SHOCKWAVES thought the industry and change would happen over night, but that is a dream, we are far, far to lazy and stupid ...
Garak - well isnt this a surprise, for the heck of it, I just connected to my Secure VPN, did some speed tests and for the first time ever download speeds were the same as what I get with it,
Hopefully, maybe they have beefed up their network but its still early in the mourning, will try tonight. Just pulled over 85Mbps down through the VPN, of course I checked my IP address and is showing the correct location I chose for VPN. )
BTW- (side note) there is or I think there is something changing about google scanning emails, has receieved too much press for them and I THINK, stress THINK that is changing but it DOESNT matter, if you use ANYTHING connected to google in anyway, your information is being SOLD. )
Originally Posted by alarmguy
But for others following this thread, as I said over and over, Im on a quest to deny Google or ANY email service I use and any internet provider I use and just plain ANYONE, the use of my private information to be sold at auction to the highest bidder. You have to start someplace and the easiest by far is to start with your email.
Heck, it's not even the highest bidder. They sell all over. Nonetheless, from a data collection standpoint, one's ISP email is the least thing to worry about, since, as I mentioned, the ISP already has your information. You're not giving them anything more by using their email service, particularly if you're not going to their ad based page and simply using an email client. The real issue is the security of the email in transit, and none of these services adequately addresses this, as I mentioned, except where all involved in the email are on the same service or versed in GPG.
I also use OpenDNS as mentioned by uc50ic4more.
Want to confuse Google? Use Gmail, but only send encrypted text.
I can see we have two different concerns, maybe better said "goals" and that is fine but lets respect each concern which we both are doing.
I am not in the least concerned about the security of my emails in transit as there is nothing in there for anyone. ) Though thats a good one on the encrypted text!
YET, if I want to, with Proton Mail I can send an encrypted email to a family member (for example a medical record) that can only be opened with a one time password that I set up at the time of writing the email AND I can have that email destruct at anytime I wish IF I choose to. Lets say your worried that your personal information is laying around a family members computer that YOU KNOW is completely clueless about internet security *LOL* ... you can have it destruct. But again, I dont care, I just do not want my ifnormation being sold to 3rd parties and private email companies do not.
I do not use an ISP email service either.
As I said I only wish to campaign against google (and others) by not using their services as much as possible, if everyone did this things would change faster.
duckduckgo instead of google, proton mail instead of google, firefox, opera instead of google, its also a known fact that the google has been selling identifiable information in their packets on people, youll have to research it, just heard it on the news while driving.
I am also on the "cusp" of possibly for the first time buying an iphone, as much as I like Android, iphone might be my next consideration.
BTW I do have lifetime end to end encryption (VPN Secure) but I dont use it as it cuts my speed down to around 30 Mbps on my 100 Mbps service.
Like I say, one thing at a time, Im not hiding from anyone, not working on secret projects, just going to slowly plugs all the holes to hinder companies from making profits off selling my families information for profit. The people in this country have the power to crash googles stock price, if they got together and did it.
It would send SHOCKWAVES thought the industry and change would happen over night, but that is a dream, we are far, far to lazy and stupid ...
Garak - well isnt this a surprise, for the heck of it, I just connected to my Secure VPN, did some speed tests and for the first time ever download speeds were the same as what I get with it,
Hopefully, maybe they have beefed up their network but its still early in the mourning, will try tonight. Just pulled over 85Mbps down through the VPN, of course I checked my IP address and is showing the correct location I chose for VPN. )
BTW- (side note) there is or I think there is something changing about google scanning emails, has receieved too much press for them and I THINK, stress THINK that is changing but it DOESNT matter, if you use ANYTHING connected to google in anyway, your information is being SOLD. )
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