Return of the Fram Ultra OG ?

[ZeeOSix]

OP - how about you actually put some effort into this and explain where you found the image, etc? I've reset the "edit" time for you, cuz you got some 'splainin' to do.

Go search for Fram Ultra on Amazon and you'll see some of them have this new box in the listing photo. The Fram Store on Amazon shows them: LINK

What's interesting is the box photo shows the dual layer metal backed media ... can only hope, lol.

 

[Snagglefoot]

FRAM just scares me. I'm scarred from the old orange cans decades ago. There are plenty of quality oil filters out there to stay away from anything FRAM. Closed minded yes but safe from that terrible assembly they produced.

Funny thing is, I was using orange cans for years on my 2008 Burb. The engine has 290,000 miles on it now. I switched over to wired Ultras for many years and now I still use the new Ultras as well as some Champ XL clones. Keep on Truckin'.

 

[53' Stude]

It's not that uncommon for a distributor or partner to accidentally leak a new products existence before the actual brand announces it. Happens all the time with computer hardware.

In this case, the original listings (including the same URL) on Amazon have been updated with those pictures and "P" designations. They show up in the "official" Fram store on Amazon and are being fulfilled by Amazon. That doesn't guarantee anything since there's no proof that Fram is the one controlling the listings or that store, but they are the original product pages that show as first available in the early-mid 2000's

I’m not buying this witness mark babble. Sorry, not sorry. AI is behind this one.

 

[ZeeOSix]

I’m not buying this witness mark babble. Sorry, not sorry. AI is behind this one.

Go look at the link in post 21. These are shown on Fram's Amazon store, so I'd think those photos are coming from Fram. Who's responsible for the listings in Fram's Amazon store? Maybe some of the info on Amazon's site is old, or maybe it's new ... don't have snapshots in time to compare and tell. The different box does show wire backed media, so who know ... time will tell as usual.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Do a search for 'Is the FRAM Synthetic XG7317P a new variant design of the XG7317' and see what you get. Says the 'P' version has a "plastic cage", which would translate to an eCore style nylon center tube. "Rufus" on Amazon comes back with that info also. If it has wire baked media ... doubt it, and again time will tell. So maybe Fram just changed the box and added the "P" on the model number to signify the nylon eCore center tube design.

 

[Fair enough]

It appears to be 19 year old news and Amazon revived it not knowing any better, unless they are in the stores.

 

[53' Stude]

Do a search for 'Is the FRAM Synthetic XG7317P a new variant design of the XG7317' and see what you get. Says the 'P' version has a "plastic cage", which would translate to an eCore style nylon center tube. "Rufus" on Amazon comes back with that info also. If it has wire baked media ... doubt it, and again time will tell. So maybe Fram just changed the box and added the "P" on the model number to signify the nylon eCore center tube design.

“Time will tell”. Your famous words. No more FRAM trickery for this man.


Show facts or else

 

[53' Stude]

Do a search for 'Is the FRAM Synthetic XG7317P a new variant design of the XG7317' and see what you get. Says the 'P' version has a "plastic cage", which would translate to an eCore style nylon center tube. "Rufus" on Amazon comes back with that info also. If it has wire baked media ... doubt it, and again time will tell. So maybe Fram just changed the box and added the "P" on the model number to signify the nylon eCore center tube design.

Until I see one of these filters cut and see wire backed media I’m not sold


Amazing that you think this is real

 

[53' Stude]

Fram has done changes to filters and boxes that show up in the stores before their website shows the changes. Time will tell if this change is ligit or not.

I doubt your statement. Here’s what I see. Care to defend fram still?

https://www.fram.com/products/oil-filters

 

[RallyXaDSM]

I doubt your statement. Here’s what I see. Care to defend fram still?

https://www.fram.com/products/oil-filters

There were C&P's of the new Ultra (including the packaging that said "perfect seal gasket" in place of "durable metal screen") before Fram updated their own site

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Post in thread 'The New Fram Ultra......'

Aug 13, 2021

They didn't even update the website before pushing this out:
https://www.fram.com/products/consumer-products/oil-filters/fram-ultra-syntheticsup-sup-oil-filter/

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[EvoMan]

That post is from 2021. A lot has changed since then.

 

[Mainia]

Do a search for 'Is the FRAM Synthetic XG7317P a new variant design of the XG7317' and see what you get. Says the 'P' version has a "plastic cage", which would translate to an eCore style nylon center tube. "Rufus" on Amazon comes back with that info also. If it has wire baked media ... doubt it, and again time will tell. So maybe Fram just changed the box and added the "P" on the model number to signify the nylon eCore center tube design.

"P" stands for "Psyop" or "Phony". With what money does First Bands have to "reconfigure" oil filters AGAIN, when they are liquidating?

 

[ZeeOSix]

“Time will tell”. Your famous words. No more FRAM trickery for this man.

Show facts or else

Or else what? Like I said, time will tell, I'm just speculating like everyone else here.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Until I see one of these filters cut and see wire backed media I’m not sold

Amazing that you think this is real

Where did I say it was "real" ... I just showed where the photo came from ... Amazon. And I also said I doubt the media is wire backed. Might want to read a little better Stude,

 

[ZeeOSix]

I doubt your statement. Here’s what I see. Care to defend fram still?

https://www.fram.com/products/oil-filters

Guess you didn't read where I said Fram has made changes to products BEFORE they ever update the box or their website. You should know that since you saw how that unfolded when the OG Ultra was change. You really are wound up on this, lol.

 

[ZeeOSix]

"P" stands for "Psyop" or "Phony". With what money does First Bands have to "reconfigure" oil filters AGAIN, when they are liquidating?

There have been some Frams posted here with the nylon eCore type center tube. So it's something they have already used on some models.

 

[53' Stude]

Guess you didn't read where I said Fram has made changes to products BEFORE they ever update the box or their website. You should know that since you saw how that unfolded when the OG Ultra was change. You really are wound up on this, lol.

I can read just fine zee. I’m just amazed people think this filter is real. This thread about as good as the 200 Valvoline Restore and Protect threads.

 

[fantastic]

I can imagine some changes at Fram in the pipeline. They recently came out with those "Diesel" filters w/new boxes as an example. Until then, who knows.

 

[Blagoje]

Do a search for 'Is the FRAM Synthetic XG7317P a new variant design of the XG7317' and see what you get. Says the 'P' version has a "plastic cage", which would translate to an eCore style nylon center tube. "Rufus" on Amazon comes back with that info also. If it has wire baked media ... doubt it, and again time will tell. So maybe Fram just changed the box and added the "P" on the model number to signify the nylon eCore center tube design.

If these might be anything like the Royal Purple filters that had wired backed synthetic media with an e-core, they will be a winner so long as the bypass isn't jacked up. See pic and thread linked below:

Post in thread 'Post your latest oil purchase or even filter.' https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/t...l-purchase-or-even-filter.320480/post-6005238

 

[ZeeOSix]

I can read just fine zee. I’m just amazed people think this filter is real. This thread about as good as the 200 Valvoline Restore and Protect threads.

Nobody has claimed it's "real". People are bringing it up and speculating what it's about. Anywhere from it's "AI generated" (some people make that claim when they don't believe something without more validation) to maybe there's something to it ... as said, time will tell. And as already mentioned, Fram has used the eCore center tube in some models since Champ Lab (inventor of the eCore center tube) has been making some of the Fram filters.