I thought the same about the Pennzoil conventional 20w-50 and 25w-50 but their website does not publish zinc or phosphorous numbers and there is no mention of them in the website product description, while Valvoline does. So although the Pennzoil may be a good choice for older engines and flat tappets, if they what us to use it they should say so. Valvoline VR1 conventional seems like a good and well-known choice.